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Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 21-03-16 10:56:23
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 21-03-16 10:56:23
BJP is hindu party and i believe BJP should be very clear on that.
But being Hindu party doesn't mean you cant rule the country , after all India is Hindu majority state and it used to be Hindu country. so why pretend ? Be open
BJP should declare them-self pure Hindu party and concentrate on development and social welfare of people - which i believe we have strong leader Modiji ...
also , they should give confidence to minority for their protection by controlling few bad mount groups.
Only solutions to all problem is "Declare India as Hindustan". PERIOD
MINORITY CAN STAY WITHIN HINDU WITH PEACE ( if they don't go extreme ), after all believe me or not but Hindu is the most tolerance and peaceful people. We don't need proof for that because they have been respecting all religion and allow everyone to their homes
Learn from how Christian and Muslim dominated states are doing.... they have their full control of policies and people allow to stay within, they have their rules , outsider allowed but they must respect the law and order .
most minority will not support them anyways, its congress play ground to play minority tricks and bjp cant bit them.
So better to be bold and open about their Hindu identity ...
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Learn from how Christian and Muslim dominated states are doing.... they have their full control of policies and people allow to stay within, they have their rules , outsider allowed but they must respect the law and order .
I am yet to hear any of the Premiers from US, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada, or Europe saying openly that they are a 'Christian' Country. They have Christianity as a Majority religion, but that's all about it and it looks pretty good when it comes to the Census and Statistics. The buck stops right there.
And, yes, some lone (racist and Conservative) voices do emanate from time to time in the Western countries, but fortunately it's not an official stance. Even so, they never said it explicitly that they are a Christian nation and all minority religions need to accept the fact and have to live under their shadow 'peacefully'.
Nope! Ain't gonna happen with India.
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Originally posted by febpreet
I am yet to hear any of the Premiers from US, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada, or Europe saying openly that they are a 'Christian' Country.
Please list where the 'premier' or PM of India has stated that India is a HINDU country?
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And, yes, some lone (racist and Conservative) voices do emanate from time to time in the Western countries, but fortunately it's not an official stance.
How is this different than in India?
It is only the Indian media who likes to highlight the trolls more than the official statement from the Govt.
Just to clarify, I do not subscribe with the previous poster's statement/solution.
Hiren
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Originally posted by hchheda
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Originally posted by febpreet
I am yet to hear any of the Premiers from US, UK, Australia, NZ, Canada, or Europe saying openly that they are a 'Christian' Country.
Please list where the 'premier' or PM of India has stated that India is a HINDU country?
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And, yes, some lone (racist and Conservative) voices do emanate from time to time in the Western countries, but fortunately it's not an official stance.
How is this different than in India?
It is only the Indian media who likes to highlight the trolls more than the official statement from the Govt.
Just to clarify, I do not subscribe with the previous poster's statement/solution.
Hiren
I was merely responding to his this statement:
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Learn from how Christian and Muslim dominated states are doing
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Originally posted by san-hugo
Well we can close our eyes and dwell in theory (or ancient times) or open eyes and see what is in practice today. Hindu or Snatan Dharma was way of life , till this was the only way of life in the region, thats how it started but then there was influx of religions into the region of indus above and below and Hindu had to become a religion to get differentiated and followers fill hindu as religion in official forms and fight tooth and nail for the ideology. Way of life is forgotten. So in the context, RSS being the advocate of hindu rashtra, is competing with simis , isiss etc. unfortunate but reality.
Better idea will be not to compete against criminals of simi , isis and denounce the acts of vhp and bajrang dal. But It will be difficult for RSS to stop the nonsense and why should they when BJP and Modi never dissuades ?
OK, I don't want to digress from the post I made earlier.
IMO, based on close contacts with active RSS karyakartas - RSS is not interested in religion propagation and conversion. They are trained, disciplined and dedicated volunteers - whose ideals are based on ideals of Bharat which modern ELM and vested opposition tries to bracket it as Hindu to divide and gain support from the other factions. I would encourage you to observe or participate even 1 early morning sabha of RSS (starts at 5.00 am every day for 1 hour) - you will see the difference between media reports and the reality.
The street level wars of VHP, Bajrang Dal, ISIS, SIMI are just those - street level where all kinds of tricks are played from both sides. There is this foolish notion that every time an event is highlighted by the TRP hungry media, everyone expects Modi to give a statement which is then analysed under a microscope and selective texts are highlighted out of context to create further controversies and TRP. Modi is doing the right thing by focusing on his priorities instead of wasting time on this never ending charade.
Bottomline is they never indulge in division/separation activities - but if a danger is sensed in their local community - they are willing and ready to protect/help. In some ways it is similar to neighborhood watching committees in Americas - but over a larger geography. To even think to compare them with the likes of ISIS and SIMI is poverty of reasoning/thought.
Disclaimer : I am not a member of RSS or their supporter. However, I do not agree to the malice being spread about them and wish to share my views.
Peace to all.
Hiren
Were RSS people involved in the Babri Masjid demolition ?
This will answer whether RSS is secular or religion oriented party .
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Originally posted by febpreet
equally so is the jingoism of RSS, and other Hindu fringe groups.
I can agree with part of this - jingoism is harmful - but I doubt it is spread by RSS. With the advent of social media - anyone can act as a reporter and spread any message on a mass scale, will find lots of takers on the same lines as the originators. Indian junta is always hungry for Tamasha - take for example the flurry of jokes which circulate on WA, FB and twitter as soon as an event happens. It is equally successful when you amplify peoples emotions.
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Remember, it all starts with jingoism over Religion and Nationalism. They (RSS, BJP, etc.) have already achieved it wholeheartedly. When you have a 'building a temple over Mosque' as an official and deep rooted agenda, then what you see is the making of extremists right from the lower ranks that take up crucial Public offices eventually, and as a result doom the Nation on region, religion, and cast lines (open advocacy of Manusmriti over Indian Constitution).
Due to the misinformation spread by the vested media that people tend to bracket RSS and BJP together. They are independent of each other - one is entirely focused on social programs and can aspire anything they want - they are free to do so. The other is a political outfit and is required to follow on the constitution and has been doing that at the national level. Democratically they have the right to make amendments to the constitution if it is accepted by the LS + RS and president. The people have the right to vote them out if the majority do not subscribe to those changes. The political party needs manpower and if BJP derives that from RSS, there is no harm. But once the person changes role - his duties align with the role he is executing.
What we are witnessing is fear mongering by paid media and everything is viewed through a tinted glass. We also have a restless generation who expects change overnight and does not have the patience to follow the procedures/check and balances in place.
Hiren
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