sguk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-02-16 23:50:50

Its simple. No need to write so much.

Ask one question only:

Indira Gandhi too had lost elections but her sons never supported those who shouted slogans for the destruction of India.

That is it. Of course, you won't get it.

Wait it will happen here. Wait for only 15 years.

Then you will understand.


:clap:


Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati

And Kejriwal advises Modi to not mess up with Terrorists (or Terrorist Sympathizers) at JNU. Those who says "Bharat Tere Tukade Honge" can't be students.

Not a single patriot can defend people shouting slogan to break own country. Unless Arvind's and Kanhaiya are funded by same foreign resources, this can't happen.



GG, I respect your views, regardless of however they are different than mine (or some on this board), and of whatever fence are you sitting, but I really really want you to objectively look at the situation. It is still not yet proven as to who chanted those slogans. If you are going by your choice of news media, then there are others that are proving otherwise and the chatter in the Video that is shown to be doctored. Of-course, it's pending in the Courts, but without knowing the truth, you just can't legitimize the unprovoked and unwarranted Govt. action. Now, before you send me links to prove your points, I must say, everyone has the opposing ones from Google. So, that won't work.

I know you are one of those blind Bhakts that don't want to look beyond what the RSS and BJP promote, which is really dangerous for the idea of India already. What is your reaction to the Jats violence in Haryana and the rioting that took place in BJP's own bastion? There, your own Hindu brothers were murdered/killed in a broad daylight by the Hindus and business worth of Crores was lost. But, no word from the Govt, except bowing to their 'unjustified' demands, despite of the much bloodshed that ensues in these last few days. No arrests, and no defying of riots. Deja vu - Gujarat, except there the culprits were easily recognized again to be some 'Anti-Nationals'.

Who is a Patriot and who is not can't be defined by you or the Govt. in question. Arvind and Kanhaiya are funded by foreign resources? Is that the best you came up with after PM echoed something similar a few days ago? You and your respected Modi is making the same mistake and uttering the exact words as your much loved Pakistan, for they too spew 'Baahri Saazish' for whatever wrong prevails in that country.

I am in no love with Kejriwal, and defy him on many grounds, but calling him unpatriotic is quite unwarranted. For Kanhaiya, I would wait for the Courts, and won't jump the gun.

By the way, Modi's much beloved Bassi has uprooted all basics of Law by saying that those captured need to prove their innocence. I thought, in the books of Law, one is innocent until proven guilty. But, it's alright. He is just getting ready for his post-retirement RS birth, or the fate similar to Kiran Bedi.

Please wake up my dear friend and see objectively. Call spade a spade. Just like religion, Nationalism is also a personal choice. Not everything that Modi, BJP, RSS, or Right Wing touches turn into Gold all the frigging time.

Leaving on this note:

"Nationalism is showing hatred to others for the reasons we are not sure about; and taking pride for the things we absolutely have no role in."



elmer fudd   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 05:24:54

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Originally posted by Fido

Till last weekend I was baffled as to why Kanhaiya Kumar or any other Hindu would shout anti India slogans .. till this weekend when conversing with a friend , I learnt of the Bengali and Communist angle ... which incidentally was also some what pro China circa 1962 .

I am a little behind in knowledge and history on that ... I am still unable to understand how does communism over shadow patriotism for India ?

Can some one educate with a 2 -3 line answer please ? ... Still do not understand why Indians esp Hindus would shout anti India slogans.



Traditional communism/Marxism is similar to certain pan-Islamic movements. They want global domination through their respective ideology/religion by blurring(but not entirely removing) national borders. They thrive on homogenisation, and Hindu India is extremely heterogeneous, thus an anti-thesis to their existence.

This traditional form of communism is dead and long gone. USSR has collapsed and the Russians have moved on, likewise the Chinese have moved on. However, the Bhadralok (British created Bengali intellectuals, who were/are at the vanguard of communist movement in India and are its intellectual sepoys) still stubbornly adhere to the movement with their laal salaams, in the hope that they can one day usher in communism. Hence, the endless parade of BBB (big bindi brigade) in Indian intellectual scene and in media debates. Naxals are their boots on ground.



san-hugo   
Member since: Aug 10
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 10:45:21

Quote:
Originally posted by sguk

Its simple. No need to write so much.

Ask one question only:

Indira Gandhi too had lost elections but her sons never supported those who shouted slogans for the destruction of India.

That is it. Of course, you won't get it.

Wait it will happen here. Wait for only 15 years.

Then you will understand.


:clap:



So where is the question in your post ? You are right, it is difficult to get and At least I cannot wait for 15 years. Please be succinct, it is a matter of good communication on a sensitive issue.

Anyways, My question to you is who exactly is supporting anti-nationals ? Names please. There is some info you have which other do not know.



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 14:08:23

Quote:
Originally posted by sguk

Its simple. No need to write so much.

Ask one question only:

Indira Gandhi too had lost elections but her sons never supported those who shouted slogans for the destruction of India.

That is it. Of course, you won't get it.

Wait it will happen here. Wait for only 15 years.

Then you will understand.


:clap:





Wah yaar, khud likha aur khud hi clap-clap kar diya? Apne muh miyan mitthu, huh?

Much inspired by the 'Bahu'? At least, you should've given her a credit of her statement that you posted, and she made in Parliament, however cringy and idiotic was it.



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 14:10:30

Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

People like Sonia and Rahul have their Z+ security, but what about us?



You can also ask for the 'Z+' security from the current Govt. I am sure they will oblige as they have all the power by being a Majority Govt.

Please try it.



Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 15:04:22

Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

Apart from the charges of sedition, what about the safety of the common man, especially in Delhi.
Is it just a coincidence that Congress gave VIP treatment to these thinkers and intellectuals from JNU and other Universities and Delhi was most terrorist stuck city in the country.
People like Sonia and Rahul have their Z+ security, but what about us?



Security of Delhi is managed by the central govt thru home ministry. Even the ACB is controlled by central govt. Now think twice before raising any question on the working of Delhi Police controlled by Modi Govt.


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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-16 20:08:56

We may not be allowed Z+ security. But we do need protection from crazy people who have their loyalties for countries across our borders. They incite people in the name of "freedom of expression" or would harbor terrorists and their sympathizers in their hostel rooms. And then would say that the police should not enter the university campus. Even their VC sing their tunes being appointed in the UPA times.

Even developed democratic countries like the USA, Canada or UK, would not put up with such non-sense and the trouble makers will be behind bars in no time. No support from their media.

What can Modi government do even if they have the police force with them if the Congress and the Left MPs support such eccentrics. Not may be, but definitely, the two parties want wrong things to happen to the people under the Modi government


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