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Posted on: 22-03-16 16:10:59
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Delhi Police had to do a volte face for admitting to the court that they did not have any video evidence of sloganeering against KK
Yes, they did not have any evidence of KK's direct indulgence - or the video was not shared with the Police. And many of the videos that were circulating were doctored. By default, he qualified for bail in absence of conclusive evidence.
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Posted on: 22-03-16 17:15:40
KK is no hero and should not be regarded as one but fact is he did make a political dent. Some bhakts (and mouthpiece channels) went overboard in airing his doctored histrionics and beat him up on cam, Govt. called for sedition and managed to shot in her own foot.
Congress, otherwise hapless, is riding on these events to campaign in forthcoming state elections against BJP.
JNU events are indeed linked to Sangh because KK raised slogan against RSS which were indigestible by them and that is where the drama started . So why shy away from the talks of it ?
This strong impression of RSS over BJP will deny this govt. her next term and that was what happened in 2004.
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Posted on: 22-03-16 18:16:22
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KK is no hero and should not be regarded as one but fact is he did make a political dent.
This is contrary to the post made by supporters about his famous 1 hour speech after his release on bail.
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Some bhakts (and mouthpiece channels) went overboard in airing his doctored histrionics and beat him up on cam,
This is the bhakts folly - but not surprising since street justice is very prevalent in India.
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Govt. called for sedition and managed to shot in her own foot.
Based on evidence provided to DP and legal ministry immediately after the event - what was wrong with applying these charges? Only upon forensic testing was it confirmed that some of the video evidence was doctored.
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Congress, otherwise hapless, is riding on these events to campaign in forthcoming state elections against BJP.
Proof enough who is behind all this 'planned' disturbance ?
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JNU events are indeed linked to Sangh because KK raised slogan against RSS which were indigestible by them and that is where the drama started . So why shy away from the talks of it ?
This strong impression of RSS over BJP will deny this govt. her next term and that was what happened in 2004.
Aside from the media reports - here is my imaginative sequence of events:
JNU students union planned and advertised an event against the hanging to Afzal Guru. ABVP objected to it (rightly so, IMO) and referred it to the JNU VC. The university cancelled the permission to the event which angered KK and his team (hence the anti ABVP/RSS slogans). They went ahead with the event and outsiders (shit stirrers) gate crashed with anti national slogans (unintentional or pre-planned with mute blessings of KK - anyone's guess) - making it a point to video graph the slogans and distribute it.
When the information reached DP - they had 2 options:
1. Ignore - sure to be criticized for inaction.
2. Take action - which they did. Based on available information, the obvious action is to take into custody the organiser of the event - which was already illegal due to absence of permission.
Then the paid media jumps in and all hell breaks loose.
Lets discuss how the DP and legal ministry could have handled this situation differently.
Whatever we suggest now, it should be remembered that hindsight is always 20/20.
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Posted on: 24-03-16 17:48:31
Add to all these, the question, what KK is doing in JNU campus, in his 31 years of age. He seems the gone astray student in prestigious educational institutions, but got his seat through reservation. The best way to uplift his backward community and family would have been to put up a brilliant academic performance and settle down in life. If he wants to do a Mahatma, he must come out of the university and fight injustice. Not enjoying the comforts of subsidized hostel room rent and food from inside. And the shameless and irresponsible Left and Congress, seeking political mileage. JNU was right in rusticating him.
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Posted on: 24-03-16 19:27:19
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the question, what KK is doing in JNU campus,
Ph.D. in African Studies.
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Posted on: 27-03-16 10:31:03
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JNU students union planned and advertised an event against the hanging to Afzal Guru. ABVP objected to it (rightly so, IMO) and referred it to the JNU VC./20.
Hiren
Question for you , if anyone wants to air their objection to Afzal Guru hanging - be it because they feel due judicial process was not followed or just because they are against capital punishment ....... should they be allowed to voice their opinion in a democratic country.
Just an FYI my personal opinion is that Afzal Guru was a terrorist and his hanging is legitimate no question about it.
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Posted on: 27-03-16 14:43:45
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Question for you , if anyone wants to air their objection to Afzal Guru hanging - be it because they feel due judicial process was not followed or just because they are against capital punishment ....... should they be allowed to voice their opinion in a democratic country.
Just an FYI my personal opinion is that Afzal Guru was a terrorist and his hanging is legitimate no question about it.
If there is a genuine intention:
1. There is a judicial process for challenging judgements. It is a universally adopted process in non bjp ruled democracy's around the world.
2. An objection to a potentially disturbing event planned on an educational campus is also Democratic right and proper process to respond to such events.
3. Review and action/sanction against such potentially anti-national events is the right and duty of the institution.
4. It is also the duty of the university to ensure that events planned and organised on its campus are educational and not proxy political wars.
5. To abide and follow institutes directives/permissions/rejections is the duty of the student organization and to be enforced by the elected leader. In case of violation, the leader has to own responsibility.
If the intentions are genuine, none of the above matters. These questions are rhetoric and the posers already know the answers.
Hiren