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sunjoyp   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-01-17 13:29:19

Hi,

My parents left Canada in 2008, since they could not settle well and returned to Dubai. From Dubai now we are back in India, I am pursuing my graduation in fine arts in Delhi and want to pursue masters in Canada.

Now, my questions are:

1) When applying for student visa will my expired PR status be a roadblock?
2) After coming over to Canada, and spending 2 years can I renew my PR?


Frankly when my parents moved back I didn't have much say.

Please advice

Sunjoy



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-17 02:12:30

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Originally posted by sunjoyp

1) When applying for student visa will my expired PR status be a roadblock?

Sunjoy



You said it. It has expired. So, put that aside for good. Start fresh.

There is no way to swing anything in after a long lost period of 10 years. Also you will need good THREE years to even get a Work Permit of Three years to become a Canadian. That will cost you a small fortune. Two years' work doing Masters won't give you the duration you need to acquire PR.

First of all the fees will be double that of the regular students. Say 12-14K/Year and currently rent and food will cost you 12K per year. So add all of this up and see how long it will take for you to break even.

But it will be sure well worth your efforts, if your Parents will join you and resume where they left off at a later date and reactivate their dreams.

You can pave their way and you can build a stairway into Canada. It is a great country to get into.

Good Luck.


FH.

20 hours/week for 8 months might permit you to save 4-5K and 4 Months of decent employment will permit you to save 6-8K . But you will need additional skills and time management to make a go of it. You also should know Fine Arts much much more to excel in it. fh.

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Quote:
Originally posted by sunjoyp

Hi,

My parents left Canada in 2008, since they could not settle well and returned to Dubai. From Dubai now we are back in India, I am pursuing my graduation in fine arts in Delhi and want to pursue masters in Canada.

Now, my questions are:

1) When applying for student visa will my expired PR status be a roadblock?
2) After coming over to Canada, and spending 2 years can I renew my PR?


Frankly when my parents moved back I didn't have much say.

Please advice

Sunjoy





sunjoyp   
Member since: Jan 17
Posts: 4
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-17 13:51:38

Thanks for the information, my father thinks that its better to live in India since he can provide an independent house to me to own. And pursue my passion in fine arts, foreign trips will come the way once I am good in my field.

As per him, Canadian struggle takes a toll and quite often people work in fields of not their choosing. Also, now with knowledge available on internet the world has become smaller and it does not make sense to immigrate but rather one should visit different places to add value to self.

I am confused, I see around me people wanting to immigrate. Can you guide me how much is it worth moving to Canada?



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-17 15:50:17

It will be unfair of me to provide you with my guidance, without knowing you, your family, the aims and goals plus the life style that you want to follow and how much of an effort that you already have put into it and where are you now amidst all of these achievements! It will all go by the wayside if you are a top notch student who has scored all 'A's and hold a Bachelors, which you do.

My views in life have been always a positive and I guide others with a forward look and to aim high and do your best and achieve a very successful career and a life path. When I take you also along that line I see no hurdles for you there. Having been educated in various locations and trying to complete the top end of it here in Canada takes you out on to a limb with no basic knowledge of the country with no childhood friends nor do you have a base of operation to fall back onto.

At this age, if you are one that is going to lead, then you are already a leader and success comes to those who can lead. Others will follow you to find out more and will pick your brains to get ideas.

Now to the nitty gritty..: How to settle here in Canada. It will take some time, so take your own time in getting your Masters there in India and work in a good post for a Good Year and then Immigrate into Canada. When you get selected by the Government of Canada, you know that there are ample jobs and good scope for you here at that time. I know that you are in your low 20's now and so have ample time to determine what you want to do and things will surely change and so will be your outlook too together with it. You will not have any pressure for you to get out of India now or later. If the desire is still to migrate, then you have the best education and experience to go with it. You can enter as an Immigrant and do your Doctors in any field of your choice, Economics, Actuarial or Human Resources or in Communications and settle down in a very high post and enjoy good 35 years of service and retire comfortably with a lot of financial stability at that time.

Do not dispense valuable resources at this juncture, if you can achieve the same end results down the road for a fraction of that sum and in you leisure. But do keep in touch with the local events and websites like this one too. That will help.

Good Luck.

FH.

EDIT.: I will not let you Immigrate here without proper Education, Experience or Vocational Guidance, plus a job to enter into or several openings to choose from. That is a total package and sound security to rely upon. You have my word on it.

http://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=136582
https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/search_occupation_allnoc.do
http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/wage-outlook_search-eng.do?reportOption=outlook
EXAMPLE.. : http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/LMI_report_bynoc.do?noc=0016&reportOption=outlook
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Quote:
Originally posted by sunjoyp

Thanks for the information, my father thinks that its better to live in India since he can provide an independent house to me to own. And pursue my passion in fine arts, foreign trips will come the way once I am good in my field.

As per him, Canadian struggle takes a toll and quite often people work in fields of not their choosing. Also, now with knowledge available on internet the world has become smaller and it does not make sense to immigrate but rather one should visit different places to add value to self.

I am confused, I see around me people wanting to immigrate. Can you guide me how much is it worth moving to Canada?





Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-01-17 15:58:24

You left Canada in 2008.. I am assuming you must have come 2-3 years prior, say 2005 ...well there was internet before that and very much at that time.. wonder why your dad did not feel that the world was a smaller place then. I don't think internet and migration are related in anyway.

Your coming over to Canada will be a struggle from grounds up. You will have to build things up, unlike in India where you have a head start through your parents.

Success anywhere will depend on what skills you have to offer and what's the demand for those skills in that market. Please make a realistic analysis here if you don't want to end up in jobs of not your choosing.

Having your own independent house is a very big start you have anywhere in the world !!!


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Fido.


sunjoyp   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-01-17 06:07:30

Thank you Fido and FH, I really appreciate your inputs.

This helps me now focus on next steps, which will be to do my best in Fine arts in India. Complete my masters and from there I will figure my future path.

Just out of curiosity, last week I was at a immigration place and they showed a pile of applications for student visa. All of them going for community college in Canada, from what I gathered professional colleges with decent ranking in India is lot better than these community colleges. Not sure, what these guys are trying to escape.

@Fido: Around 2005 internet speeds were not that good in India, now with Kindle for which I have my aunts USA card added gives me ability to purchase more range of books even the ones not available in India. That is what my father meant by shrinking of the world. :)



shobhade   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-01-17 10:10:09

Quote:
Originally posted by sunjoyp

Thanks for the information, my father thinks that its better to live in India since he can provide an independent house to me to own. And pursue my passion in fine arts, foreign trips will come the way once I am good in my field.

As per him, Canadian struggle takes a toll and quite often people work in fields of not their choosing. Also, now with knowledge available on internet the world has become smaller and it does not make sense to immigrate but rather one should visit different places to add value to self.

I am confused, I see around me people wanting to immigrate. Can you guide me how much is it worth moving to Canada?



Your father is right. There is a reason, why he left Canada in the first place and let his PR expire.

Nothing has changed since he left 10 yrs back, if at all things are worse. House prices are 2.5 times of what they were 10 yrs back in Toronto and Vancouver, but wages are pretty much the same.

Immigrants still living in basements and shitty apartments, barely making ends meet. The ones in houses are in big time debt having bought crappy overpriced houses, they can barely make Mortgage payments on.

You and your parents will have a much better life in India.
In India as long as you avoid and ignore the lower class and maintain your class, you will have a great life.

In Canada you will be the lower class and second class citizen. Fools paradise in Canada for qualified immigrants.

But its a great country for lower class and uneducated immigrants and refugees, to do unskilled menial survival jobs.



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