Mother in laws visit visa rejected


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Kap   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 299
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 09:54:43

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Orginally posted by Smiley

Jintaku

"The real motto of my message to community is as below

1. Firstly the so called self declared first world nations, do not have anything of their own to call for.

a . They have a culture which no one can call where from it came.
b. A culture which has no values
c. Parents over here are worst than dogs, atleast dog travels with the masters, but parents are left to old age homes etc etc

Considering above scenario how can we expect these jokers to understand the importance of motherhood , parents and relationships."



I am shocked to read your comments . You do not look like somebody who has been here for so much time and have been polished to the level of accepting international cultures. You seem to be one of those whining Indians who live in a foreign country and still curse it day and night. If you hate these cultures so much , why don't you move back to good old India. If India has the best culture and values what are you doing here. If it was the best culture and having the best values , then it would be the best country also in the world and people would be struggling to go there and not asking in forums that " how much time it takes to get canadian immigration ".

Don't judge other countries and culture by the Indian point of view. If people are refused visas for visiting , it has nothing to do with cultures. It is a valid immigration procedure and policy on which things are decided. Just because you came here and settled here and got an "IT" job , Canada does not have to give visas to all your "Khandaan" to come and visit you . If you miss it so much , go back and visit them.

and mind you , I am not bashing India here but I am speaking against bashing the culture of the coutries in which we live. We earn here and live here and how can we curse these countries and when they gave you a an Immigrant visa they did not promise your "khandaan" visitor visas.
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Smiley has over reacted to this tread. Dont tell "Khandaan" to our parents who wants to visit here. Dont compare culture of canada and India. If u have too much problem as Indian then please leave this indian canadian desi forum.

Here people discussing about how they treated our old age parants for visitor visa. Old age parents have visit new delhi with all required papers what they need for issuance of visa and they just reject without any proper ground.

Respect other Indian is good culture and its Indian culture.


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Kap


Smiley   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 1185
Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 10:38:05

Hey Kap

Agreed, I may have over reacted but writing this is also not fair and in best of spirits.

"Parents over here are worst than dogs, atleast dog travels with the masters, but parents are left to old age homes etc etc

Considering above scenario how can we expect these jokers to understand the importance of motherhood , parents and relationships."

And also let me remind you that I have seen people here and in other newsgroups whose parents, in-laws have been rejected visas accusing the full canadian and american culrures and countries of being bad and filthy. Instead of correcting of their own cases and working on their own individual applications , they accuse these countries and throw dirt on them while living and earning in them . This is one perfect example of that . If they have been declined visas then there must be a valid reason to be denied and the immigration officer may not have been convinced of their case but that does not make the full canadian culture and country bad. Thats all what I meant and I am not bashing India here at all . And when I say Khandaan , I meant friend's , relatives and brothers and sisters. It may be the parents too . Immigration and citizenship does not descriminate between these relations at all.


And above all, Old age is not an eligibility of getting guaranteed visas. I have never understood this statement that "My parents are old and they have been denied visas". Old age parents and people are given a privilege to apply as drop -box but that does not gurantee visas if their cases are not strong and specially if they are retired and not earning enough to sustain themselves".

And also If I may add, being a part of canadian desi does not mean that we ignore what is correct and have to support the right to bash another country and its people just because one man's parents were denied a visitor's visa .


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Kap   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 299
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 11:18:41

Quote:
Orginally posted by Smiley

Hey Kap

Agreed, I may have over reacted but writing this is also not fair and in best of spirits.

"Parents over here are worst than dogs, atleast dog travels with the masters, but parents are left to old age homes etc etc

Considering above scenario how can we expect these jokers to understand the importance of motherhood , parents and relationships."

And also let me remind you that I have seen people here and in other newsgroups whose parents, in-laws have been rejected visas accusing the full canadian and american culrures and countries of being bad and filthy. Instead of correcting of their own cases and working on their own individual applications , they accuse these countries and throw dirt on them while living and earning in them . This is one perfect example of that . If they have been declined visas then there must be a valid reason to be denied and the immigration officer may not have been convinced of their case but that does not make the full canadian culture and country bad. Thats all what I meant and I am not bashing India here at all . And when I say Khandaan , I meant friend's , relatives and brothers and sisters. It may be the parents too . Immigration and citizenship does not descriminate between these relations at all.


And above all, Old age is not an eligibility of getting guaranteed visas. I have never understood this statement that "My parents are old and they have been denied visas". Old age parents and people are given a privilege to apply as drop -box but that does not gurantee visas if their cases are not strong and specially if they are retired and not earning enough to sustain themselves".

And also If I may add, being a part of canadian desi does not mean that we have the right to bash another country and its people just becuase one man's parents were denied a visitor's visa .
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Hi Smiley,

This is not India V. Canada. There is nothing like Canada is worst and India is best. People know about Canada after reaching here.

Just want to info from others that I provided all documents perfectly for parents and they just not asking any question to them and rejected is not proper things. Its like our Indian Government style they have power and they have misused it! But in India we can fight if any Government officer misused his power and deny then we can approach higher authority and convince the case and fix out the issue. But its not possible in case of CIC, New Delhi.

Before the atmosheaour is different for visitor visa of Parents but now a day they become more rigid and strict and randomly deny the case, is a not proper things.

Many people's parents visitor visa application has been rejected and next time they applied with letter of MP and they got their Visa. :)

In short, now a day CIC, New Delhi people treats applicants like treatments from USA embassy, Mumbai. That is not fair thing.

Let me know the remedy, if parents apply for visitor visa, with perfectly and complete documents what they need and they reject without any proper reason. FYI, on website they mentioned you cannot appeal in court for rejection of visitor visa.

They should have perfect guideline for visitor visa and they have to follow up their guideline.



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Smiley   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 1185
Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 11:29:16

Hey Kap

You are right, I completely agree with you. What we can do best is to follow the documentation and apply for a visa. A lot depends upon luck and stars and I am not saying that getting denied is good but the application can be workd upon and "improved". I am sure massood can talk this better than any of us can here.

But we should all remember that all cases are different and just because somebody's else's parents /in-laws got visas is no gaurantee that our parents would get them too .

I am totally on your side but when I see the increasing refugee claims and people asking to renew their parents visitor visas 2-3 times and people over-staying and illegally coming into canada . I guess we all have to pay the price for it from being the same country whether we are responsible for it or not does not matter.

Hope I am not over-reacting this time now that I have had my coffee for Monday morning :)

Have a Great day and I hope your folks get the visa ..

Take care


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jintaku   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 3
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 11:36:39

I hope people got me wrong.
To clarify, visas for my family people was never refused . I wanted to bring all the people under one umbrella to help them to clarify what documents are needed , if provided properly then why is visa refused.

If we can come together get our message to the Immigration Dept, atleast we can make them to define proper rules of refusal give an explanation rather than just refusal without cause.

This can happen only when we can come together and put pressure on Govt.

Coming to comments on acceptance of foreign culture, Yes i am well polished gentleman and i know what to accept and what not to take. I know the deficiencies in Indian System etc.

FYI I am here in Canada since 1998 and being true loyal to India, Never applied for canadian citizenship. Also i hold 2 companies under me and 300 employees working under me (all indians/pakis - who were shown great careers here and landed up doing labour jobs) . Also we run 4 charity organizations doing very good job of schooling (free) with hostels etc in India.

The idea was clearly to help genuine cases not go through the rejection without reason cause.

Correct me if i am wrong.



bighead   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 285
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 12:00:12

Quote:
Orginally posted by Smiley
I am totally on your side but when I see the increasing refugee claims and people asking to renew their parents visitor visas 2-3 times and people over-staying and illegally coming into canada . I guess we all have to pay the price for it from being the same country whether we are responsible for it or not does not matter.



actually... saying you want a visit visa to go take care of your granddaughter/grandson after your daughter gives birth is almost a sure shot way of being rejected... how is it unfair if a visa officer considers the possibility that you are trying to import a free nanny? by law, if such a possibility exists, then a visa officer is required to refuse the application...



Kap   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 299
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-08-04 12:10:31

Quote:
Orginally posted by Smiley

Hey Kap

You are right, I completely agree with you. What we can do best is to follow the documentation and apply for a visa. A lot depends upon luck and stars and I am not saying that getting denied is good but the application can be workd upon and "improved". I am sure massood can talk this better than any of us can here.

But we should all remember that all cases are different and just because somebody's else's parents /in-laws got visas is no gaurantee that our parents would get them too .

I am totally on your side but when I see the increasing refugee claims and people asking to renew their parents visitor visas 2-3 times and people over-staying and illegally coming into canada . I guess we all have to pay the price for it from being the same country whether we are responsible for it or not does not matter.

Hope I am not over-reacting this time now that I have had my coffee for Monday morning :)

Have a Great day and I hope your folks get the visa ..

Take care



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Hi Smiley,

Great !

I am not comparing with visitor visa of other parents.

I am trying second time with same documents with MP letter and lets see the result.

I posted before following :
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But whats the problem of the Canadian Government if they issue visitor visa to immigrants parents?

They are old age and not going to work illegally. Sponsorer has sufficient income to accomadate them. then Whats burden on Canadian Government?

If they issue visitor visa then

-Air Canada (may be survive from bankrupcy) or Pearson Air port got income from them
-Sponsorer spend more expenses for their parants and more money rotate in market. and Government also got GST +HST from money spend for their parents.
-They visit tourist places and have nice income from such visitors
-They have their medical insurance (Insurance company also got some business)


What is the risk factor for Government if they issue visa for parents, I really cant understand their logic behind rejection.

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Have good day and take care.




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Kap




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