http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041209/ap_on_re_ca/canada_same_sex_marriage
TORONTO - Canada's highest court said Thursday the government can redefine marriage to include same-sex couples, but it added that religious officials cannot be forced to perform unions against their beliefs.
The ruling by the court in Ottawa brings to the final stages a long, bitter fight over whether gays and lesbians should be allowed to marry in Canada.
Judges in six provinces and one territory have already overturned the traditional definition, allowing thousands of same-sex weddings.
Canada would join Belgium and the Netherlands in allowing gay marriage if the government acts to make it legal nationwide. To pass in the House of Commons, the legislation needs the approval of about 44 of the 95 Liberal backbench members of Parliament to obtain a 155-vote majority.
One top Liberal predicted the legislation should pass easily after its introduction, likely early next year. It already has the support of the 38-member Liberal cabinet and virtually all the 54 Bloc Quebecois and 19 New Democrat MPs.
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Posted on: 09-12-04 16:25:30
Hmmm so now the big question...any desis in the forum..still living in the closet !.. Come on out and proudly reveal urself 
I wonder when they will enact such a law in India ? Considering that homosexuality is still a crime in India !
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Even in canada its dbl tough if you are gay and have a desi BG.
I had read about this gay Pakistanis trials with this issue. I happened to talk to the guy yesterday..
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Orginally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
Hmmm so now the big question...any desis in the forum..still living in the closet !.. Come on out and proudly reveal urself
I wonder when they will enact such a law in India ? Considering that homosexuality is still a crime in India !
DO you mean it is legally not allowed in India?
Or more of a social thing...
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DO you mean it is legally not allowed in India?
Or more of a social thing...
Nothing that says that but sodomy is a criminal offence according to the law in India.
heres an interesting read
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0909/rh374.html
An excerpt that suggests that the current homophobic attitude of most desis is a legacy of our western colonial masters.
"Both sexual systems coexisted, despite fluctuations in relative repression and freedom, until British Colonialism when the destruction of images of homosexual expression and sexual expression in general became more systematic and blatant. T'he homophobic and Victorian puritanical values regarded the display of explicit sexual images as 'pornographic and evil'. The Western view, since the time of Colonial expansion, has been strongly influenced by reproductive assumption about sexuality. These puritanical values and attitudes were in turn mapped into the interpretation of sexual activity among colonial people which is evident from the responses to all forms of 'unnatural' sexual practices. The Indian psyche accepted the Western 'moral and psychological' idea of sexuality being 'pathological' rather than the natural expression of desire, which once used to be part of Indian culture."
Apparently 'culture' and 'moral values' are not stagnant but evolving and morphing across time. Food for thought ...especially for those who think that these are things written in stone like the oft quoted desi 'Culture and values' on this forum. I've often wondered what the heck they are talking about when they make it sound like an ancient and undisturbed formula of moral superiority(according to them).
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Orginally posted by jake3d
Nothing that says that but sodomy is a criminal offence according to the law in India.
heres an interesting read
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0909/rh374.html
An excerpt that suggests that the current homophobic attitude of most desis is a legacy of our western colonial masters.
"Both sexual systems coexisted, despite fluctuations in relative repression and freedom, until British Colonialism when the destruction of images of homosexual expression and sexual expression in general became more systematic and blatant. T'he homophobic and Victorian puritanical values regarded the display of explicit sexual images as 'pornographic and evil'. The Western view, since the time of Colonial expansion, has been strongly influenced by reproductive assumption about sexuality. These puritanical values and attitudes were in turn mapped into the interpretation of sexual activity among colonial people which is evident from the responses to all forms of 'unnatural' sexual practices. The Indian psyche accepted the Western 'moral and psychological' idea of sexuality being 'pathological' rather than the natural expression of desire, which once used to be part of Indian culture."
Apparently 'culture' and 'moral values' are not stagnant but evolving and morphing across time. Food for thought ...especially for those who think that these are things written in stone like the oft quoted desi 'Culture and values' on this forum. I've often wondered what the heck they are talking about when they make it sound like an ancient and undisturbed formula of
moral superiority(according to them).
Going by that article, It was British influence that created homophobia.
Very interesting. Does this point to a basically liberal culture in India for most of it's history. I know we have always done well in being tolerant. But we have always been traidtional and socially conservative too.
Back to the Canada, I am glad that it happened. As Jack Leighton put it "Its a human rights issue". At its core it is.
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But we have always been traidtional and socially conservative too.
This has been increasingly true only past few hundred years.
http://www.indiansaga.info/tantra/tantra7.html
http://www.bigeye.com/sexeducation/ancientindia.html
since art is as reflctive of life as life is of art:
http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/erotica/
It is true that through the years fear of female sexuality coupled with victorian prudishness has introduced many of the sexually conservative attitudes that we see today.
Also read an interview of Dr Sudhir Kakar.
http://www.lifepositive.com/Mind/psychology/psychotherapy/kakar.asp
Was sex always a taboo in India?
Actually, there are two factors here. First, there is the Indian tradition itself where there is a conflict between the ideals of eroticism and ascetic celibacy. A conflict which eroticism has almost always lost, except in the Gupta period of Vatsyayana. Which is why I selected this period for the book. I'm for the erotic rather than the celibate. Secondly, the middle class was under the Victorian Puritanical influence, which strengthened the ascetic ideals of the Indian tradition. People believed that since the western political and economic institutions were better, perhaps their moral institutions were also better.
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