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Garvo Gujarati   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 09:44:20

If you are travelling on 401 during peak hours you might have notices such heading. They are mostly wrong and misleading.

This morning I saw a board "Express Moving Well Collector Moving Very Slow" beyond next transfer. Though I knew it could be wrong (as usual) I thought to give it a chance. I chose Express and you know what? Collector was moving at a double speed than the Express.

May be there is a delayed co-ordination between the staff who is entering such information and the staff who is defining what is Well, Slow and Very Slow.

Your experiences?


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YoursTruly   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 10:20:29

GG, be a contrarian!

If 401 express is moving well, everybody would go there. Then how the poor thing could 'move well'?


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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 13:20:41

For those not in Toronto, "Moving Well" is a very relative term :p


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Skywalker   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 13:23:56

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Orginally posted by pratickm

For those not in Toronto, "Moving Well" is a very relative term :p



You are sooooo right ..... doing 60 km on the 401 in the day time is known as moving well ..... the GTA desperatley needs another highway .... or ..... needs to expand the alternative ones.


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crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 13:52:49

Quote:
Orginally posted by Skywalker

Quote:
Orginally posted by pratickm

For those not in Toronto, "Moving Well" is a very relative term :p



You are sooooo right ..... doing 60 km on the 401 in the day time is known as moving well ..... the GTA desperatley needs another highway .... or ..... needs to expand the alternative ones.



Perhaps you'd be interested to know that there are guidelines in this regard:

'Moving well' represents a speed of 75 km/hr or more, and this speed is typically detected by sensors in the road. The changeable message signs are managed by an operator who can override messages based on visual observation over the cameras. As YT correctly pointed out though, this situation can change very quickly during peak rush hour traffic.

More info at this link!

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/compass/systems/cmgmt.htm



pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-02-05 17:47:40

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Orginally posted by crenshaw
Perhaps you'd be interested to know that there are guidelines in this regard:

'Moving well' represents a speed of 75 km/hr or more, and this speed is typically detected by sensors in the road.

That's what I meant by relative :p
75 kph = 45 mph.
I don't think that's "moving well" by most standards on a freeway.
But when you are talking about one of North America's busiest highways, then 75 kph during rush hr. is indeed "moving well" !


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bandhan   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 52
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-02-05 04:25:36

This may sound funny but I always use reverse psychology when i drive on the 401.
If you think that the 401 express is moving faster, then always change to collectors...And so far, it has always worked for me...

Also if you notice that the lane beside u is moving faster, u change your lane to the faster lane...And just when you change the lane, it stops moving and the one you switched from starts moving...

Lesson learnt: Always use reverse psychology!!!
:p :p :p





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