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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-06 19:29:18

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Orginally posted by jake3d

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Orginally posted by morning_rain

Can you clarify what you wrote? Thanks..



You can affect change. If you OR a lot of PR's think that this requirement is unfair and needs to be challenged, you do have rights that empower you to bring about change.



I cannot say that the requirement is unfair because I suspect most countries have similar policies. The US federal government website shows this requirement as well.

Becoming a citizen shows commitment - that you've put in your three years and then went through the process to commit to life in Canada.

I do agree that empowerment and change are necessary facets of society however in this case I dont see the link between PR's and Government jobs.

Btw - I've worked for a few years at City and provincial levels.


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-06 19:45:15

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Orginally posted by morning_rain
I do agree that empowerment and change are necessary facets of society however in this case I dont see the link between PR's and Government jobs.

Btw - I've worked for a few years at City and provincial levels.



I'm not saying that the requirement is unfair either. Let me explain what i am saying.

A cpl of people were trying to draw parallels between the fact that

PR's do not have access to govt jobs in Canada
and
State sanctioned religious preference by countries in the middle east.

My point that is that if people disagree with certain policies, they CAN be challenged and rectified in a democracy, even if you and I think the policy is fair.

One cannot challenge the laws in countries like Saudi Arabia. e.g: you cannot have property, build a house of worship, or even bring in a bible/gita or religious picture into the country etc. You are legally a second-class resident in such countries.


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-06 20:03:07

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Orginally posted by jake3d

My point that is that if people disagree with certain policies, they CAN be challenged and rectified in a democracy, even if you and I think the policy is fair.



ooh ok- this is the problem with two dimensional communication :) Well, I agree with you on that - and this works in theory.


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maple_asian   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 272
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-06 02:53:15

As an infidel, my life is always less worth than that of a muslim in any of the 57 Islamic countries in the world. This is state sponsored discrimination.

I tried to count the number of countries that have a state religion other than Islam and I couldn't find more than a dozen.

Also I am always afraid of suicide bombers blowing themselves up in public places for 72 virgins. I don't understand this 72 virgins concept. Can someone enlighten me on this

I never understood why many Muslims like the religious freedom in the West but won't let minorities in Islamic countries have the same rights?

One religion's religious text is another religion's blasphemy.

For example, Muslims say all Hindu Gods are just Idols and are not God. And they are openly saying that (Hindu Gods are not Gods but devil) in mosques and every where. Now if all Hindus start protesting about this I would love to see if Muslims will stop disrespecting Hindu Gods?

Same with Jesus Christ. Muslims say he is just a prophet. That is an insult to all christians. So if all Christians start protesting, will Muslims stop saying that?


The following is a request to people of all religions:

PLEASE LIVE THE WAY YOU WANT BUT DON'T IMPOSE YOUR RULES ON OTHERS. LIVE AND LET LIVE.

The doctor who is treating you couldn't have been able to treat you if he didn't study evolution and science which may be wrong according your religious beliefs. Please be sensible and keep your religion to yourself. Religion is a personal affair.

Doing destructive things like blowing up buildings and people due to religious reasons is not a great thing. It brings revulsion about that religion to people of other religions. You can never win hearts of other people by doing destructive activities. Only constructive activities and charitable actions (towards people of other religions)(often seen among many Christian, Buddhist and Hindu Organizations) will win hearts of other people. Love is more powerful than Bomb.


Azazf   
Member since: Oct 04
Posts: 508
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-06 09:13:31

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Orginally posted by maple_asian

As an infidel, my life is always less worth than that of a muslim in any of the 57 Islamic countries in the world. This is state sponsored discrimination.



And we all know that the godhra riots were not state sponsored right?
and so was the babri masjid demolition right?
Around 65 Hindus were burnt in train and what followed killed more than 2000 and thousands displaced.
so calculating the worth of lives
life of 1 Hindu = 20 muslims
And we are the worlds largest democracy. Muslims were called infidels in the early ages so whats the big deal if someone calls you one. I have been called plenty of names growing up in India becuase of my religion.

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I tried to count the number of countries that have a state religion other than Islam and I couldn't find more than a dozen.


And your point is..........it could mean its a complete way of life so more than 57 countries have adopted it.

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Also I am always afraid of suicide bombers blowing themselves up in public places for 72 virgins.


It aint for the 72 virgins they are blowing themselves up.

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I don't understand this 72 virgins concept.

you never will you are too shallow and close minded to understand it.
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Can someone enlighten me on this


why you want some too :D

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I never understood why many Muslims like the religious freedom in the West but won't let minorities in Islamic countries have the same rights?


Which muslims are you talking about..........Have you even had a real muslim friend in your entire life.

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One religion's religious text is another religion's blasphemy.


how?

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For example, Muslims say all Hindu Gods are just Idols and are not God. And they are openly saying that (Hindu Gods are not Gods but devil) in mosques and every where.


I went to the mosques regularly and went to madrassas as well but I do not remember one time when I was taught something like that or I heard something like that. So stop spewing shit

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Now if all Hindus start protesting about this I would love to see if Muslims will stop disrespecting Hindu Gods?


The RSS,VHP,Bajrang Dal, ABVP,SHIVSENA,DURGAVAHINI,BJP to name just a few are working on it so need not worry.

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Same with Jesus Christ. Muslims say he is just a prophet. That is an insult to all christians. So if all Christians start protesting, will Muslims stop saying that?


Christians have the similar indifferences with jews on that and they can even blame the jews for the atrocities on christ may be they can join you guys in the gungho.

Just as the frog thinks the well is the entire world, same is the case with a lot of Indians, living in ghettos with their OWN kind and never knowing in the real sense what the world and different cultures and religion have to offer.

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Doing destructive things like blowing up buildings and people due to religious reasons is not a great thing. It brings revulsion about that religion to people of other religions. You can never win hearts of other people by doing destructive activities.


I agree totally

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Only constructive activities and charitable actions (towards people of other religions)(often seen among many Christian, Buddhist and Hindu Organizations) will win hearts of other people.

Sure sure,

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Love is more powerful than Bomb.

Happy valentines day or has the VHP asked you not to celebrate it?


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hchheda   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 2245
Location: Woodbridge

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-06 13:02:43

Should Hindus hit the street with bombs and flares???

http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/14gods.htm?q=tp&file=.htm

Guys, please do cross the border between supporting extremism and religion.

Hiren



maple_asian   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 272
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-06 20:18:28

Hey Azazf bhai,

Can you kindly explain what is this 72 virgins about?:D

How can a person get them by blowing up infidels in a public place?



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