To expand on Morning Rain's post above, my wife discovered few years ago that she could do better in terms of pay if she switched fields. She has a degree in Civil Engineering, worked for a consulting firm for a pitiful pay for about 2 years. Today she is in the automotive industry in the area of project management doing reasonably well.

What happened to her was that her fundamental engineering education allowed her to step inside the automotive industry. After that, she took few classes in quality and industrial technology to advance her knowledge along the automotive field and that allowed her to grow further.

Once you have few years of experience, I believe you can further diversify away from your field. My personal goal is get out of automotive industry and use my automotive expr (analytical abilities, decision making, interaction skills, risk analysis, problem negotiations, basic computer application skills, etc, etc) in other industries - ex: hospitals, financial institutions, food industry, etc.

At the end of the day, acronyms and procedures might be different but challenges in any industry are similar. And years of experience would allow you to use that expr from one field into another.

What does this have to do with drawbacks of citizenship? I love straying away from the original topic

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And what do you say to the country (Canada) which has uprooted many immigrants from good jobs and planted them in Canada as labourers?. If you say taht it was our choice to come here, then the whole point system should not be there . some other criteria should exist.
TK

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Tamilkuruvan:

There are people in almost every sector that recognize this problem exists for people with exceptional backgrounds and skills that come to Canada from around the world. There is recognition that this is a problem for foreign trained professionals. Slowly but steadily people are coming forward to find solutions..bit by bit..day by day.

I truly sympathize with your situation, along with those who face similar situations. As I have mentioned earlier, my husband was and is in the same boat so I know how difficult it can be on the family. However.

I think being educated means being resourceful. Obtaining a university degree for ex/ to me means that one has persevered and shown that they are capable of learning, of expanding, of being flexible and thinking 'outside the box'. My suggestion to you is to use those inner resources at this time. Yes - the problem is apparent - now use your inner strength.. problem solving ability..understanding of different processes to find solutions for your own successes.

There are opportunities where there are problems. To find out who you really are takes adversity sometimes. If you want to see the problems around you..thats all you'll find. My suggestions are to look for the small things that you can enjoy.

Its how you see your situation..your attitude.
You control where you can go in the future..

I wish you good luck and success in finding your dreams realized here. Be positive.

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There are opportunities where there are problems. To find out who you really are takes adversity sometimes. If you want to see the problems around you..thats all you'll find. My suggestions are to look for the small things that you can enjoy.

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I just read a good anecdote which is apt for this so I am posting this here.


There is this super-rich Mr Patel in Vancouver in Canada. Visitors to his huge mansion are shocked to see a large photograph of Idi Amin adorning the walls, next to the pictures of his parents and Gurus. Every day, Amin's photo is also duly garlanded and incense sticks offered.

'What is this? After all this man threw you out of the country and you worship him ?' curious visitors ask Mr Patel.

"Sometimes Bhagwan gives you a kick to elevate you. If this man had not thrown me out, I would today still be a small shopkeeper in Uganda," says Patel, now the owner of a chain of hotels and condominiums all over North America.

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Hello!
Thanks guys for the positive encouragement. I was just responding to Farwab's comments "Guys you know you can still go back... pardon my language but you guys sound like hypocrites when you say you came here just for "this" and after you get it you will do "that"... where is your loyalty...where is your faith????"
Sorry that i got it off the topic.
TK
Sidenote : I belive that it is very easy get jobs in the USA than in Canada.
for eg. an uneducated spouse of an IT software engr., in the USA can get software testing job after taking a few classes/ course at the university (this is what my software engineering freinds in USA tell me) etc.. rather than a Qualified engineer even getting Janitor job in an Engineering firm in Canada. It is just the way Canada is. As told numerous time by many people, once people come to Canada and find out what it is , they lose all the money that they brought and it is very difficult to realise their dreams after that (by going to USA, Europe etc...) This has been my case and it not the only case. If i now had the CDN $ 12,000 which i brought when i came to Canada in 2002, I would be driving to New york now.

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Hi TK,

Why can't you try a TN Visa from Toronto?? You can move to New York with an IT job.

Thanks,
G

There is recognition that this is a problem for foreign trained professionals. Slowly but steadily people are coming forward to find solutions..bit by bit..day by day.
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Morning rain: since how long have these solutions being implemented and recognised. I read somewhere in 80's. Wow more than 25 yrs have passed and where are they still sitting at 0. Or maybe Canadians don't know anything beyond 0.

Good for those guys who had money or support or anything to make their change of profession, blah blah, there are ppl who had no support or anything else, and they have lived their lives at doing a min. wage jobs. Education does mean making an individual resourceful, that's why we end up taking these min. wage jobs to support ourselves and our families, and when we can somehow train ourselves leave this country and look at US who atleast values our education.

TK: Canada didn't uproot anyone. It's our silly mistake that we didn't investigate. Seriously. I am not being sarcastic. We made our choices on false promises advertised or told, though we were educated and didn't even try to find is it true and moved here. So it's only us we can blame. But yes things and experiences should be available to other ppl. who are about to make a decision like this, so that they have no choice but to blame themselves if they land in this situation, because now they have the resources on net where we put our experiences.

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"TK: Canada didn't uproot anyone. It's our silly mistake that we didn't investigate. Seriously. I am not being sarcastic. We made our choices on false promises advertised or told, though we were educated and didn't even try to find is it true and moved here."
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Babail,
I canot agree the first point. See the govt. website. See how the govt. says that Canada has a booming economy, jobs, quality of life etc...
See what the govt. says. how are these enforced "
Taken from CIC.gc.ca Website
"Discrimination

There are laws to protect workers from discrimination. For example, an employer must hire employees on the basis of their qualifications. Employers cannot refuse to hire you because they don't like your skin colour or your religion. This is discrimination. It is also discrimination if you are refused a job because of your age, sex, marital status, disability or sexual orientation." (My comment- >Have you ever seen this happening in Canada?)
Newcomers to Canada rarely enter the job market quickly and often must start with jobs below the skill level they worked at in their home country. Once they have Canadian job experience and their ability in English or French improves, so do their job prospects. (My comment: This also is false. This creates a false impression that if you are a professional and you know english, you can enter the Canadian job market)

TK

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