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I would like to share my feelings with dinesh C, TK, nand and many others. I just finished watching Rang De Basanti on DVD a few minutes ago. The mere thought of many of the brave heroes of India have fought to obtain the freedom we are breathing now and how I'm going to just give it up for a few Dollars and a Passport during the Citizenship Oath.
My resolution is to think about and sing in my mind a nice Bharathiar song like \" Achamillai ! Achamillai !\" during the oath. I feel that I can do more to my country by pumping my dollars back to it and helping it in times of need like Tsunami/Earthquakes. I can also help my country by obtaining my citizenship here and trying to shape foreign policy of USA and Canada to be more favorable to my mother country India.
My citizenship is another 217 days later, but my mind has got swayed by this beautiful movie called Rang De Basanti.
Mera Bharat Mahaan !
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Speech by Thomas Friedman of The New York Times....
"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"
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Orginally posted by babail
what did Gandhi do. Just extended the time for India getting it's freedom, by preaching non-voilence. If these things had been left in hands of Chandrashekar, Bhagat Singh etc, we would have got it way before.
what did Gandhi do, by extending the time, getting more innocent killed in name of Non-Voilence, which I never understood where he got from because whether Jainism or Hinduism they both preach non-voilence, but they never that voilence for a just cause is wrong. And if attaining freedom is a wrong cause, what further can I say about these ppl.
What did Gandhi and Nehru do, made India and Pakistan.
What is there to hate about this country. I find it to be the same as my motherland whom I still treasure. It like my motherland, has mountains, lakes, sand, rivers, beaches, animals, trees and humans. What you don't like are some stupid individuals. But then where on earth you don't find them.
It's us humans who have created India, Canada, USA otherwise the Earth is Earth. Learn to appreciate it. Hate the ppl. if you really want to (though I don't really justify that too because as I said idiots will be found everywhere) Remember V.P Singh and Mandal commission.
You were wrong. A non-violent Gandhi was insipration to Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King Junior.
If armed struggle would produce better results, look at Palestine and it's suicide bombers. It didn't produce the desired result besides making the world more sympathetic towards Israel.
India being a democracy has all the valves to reduce the pressures in a social system that practices caste based divisions - a small upper caste elite enjoying the most of the wealth while a large lower caste never recieved it's rightful place before independence.
While I hate reservations based on caste, I feel they were the prime reason India never went into civil war because they guranteed the rights to a majority people who were oppressed in the name of caste.
Unfortunately the reservations acheived their objective to a lot extent and now it is better to reduce them slowly. I will never forget the self-immolation of more than 220 poor young people from upper caste during Mandal commission protests.
The reason I left India is I see no more future in India for my kids as everything is based on reservations.
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Under cover mosque
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816&ei=ZdwxSc74L4ig-AGZ4YHiDQ&q=undercover+mosque&hl=en" target="_blank">http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816&ei=ZdwxSc74L4ig-AGZ4YHiDQ&q=undercover+mosque&hl=en
Mahatma Gandhi's life achievement stands unique in political history. We may all be happy and grateful that destiny gifted us with such an enlightened human being, a role model for the generations to come.
For info about Mahatma Gandhi & books written about & by him, visit the website http://www.mahatma.org.in" rel="nofollow">LINK
The website is the brain-child of Tushar Gandhi, the great-grandson of Mahatma Gandhi. I was fortunate to be associated with this project since my company had the contract for the conversion of books into HTML format in India.
Rgds.
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Let's make India a better place !
I would like to put it slightly differently.
When one becomes citizen of an adopted country it is ethical to take proper oath. Allegiance to Queen is not allegiance to a mortal person, it is allegiance to the way constitution of Canada is currently framed. It may change in future or it may not.
When one thinks about motherland, where one was born, not every son can do everything. If one son can contribute while working in the country, and other son can contribute from afar, the composite whole will be more than sum of parts.
Being grateful to Canada does not necessarily mean being disloyal to India and vice versa. Today China's diaspora / expatriate population is biggest investor in China, making its economy boom.
Everyone has to reach such a level that he can contribute to the economy of Canada and the economy of India. Being in Canada and becoming a citizen is just a step in that direction of personal growth and there is nothing wrong about it. You cannot help any of the country till you are strong and productive.
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Posted on: 09-03-06 08:39:49
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Orginally posted by LD
I would like to put it slightly differently.
When one becomes citizen of an adopted country it is ethical to take proper oath. Allegiance to Queen is not allegiance to a mortal person, it is allegiance to the way constitution of Canada is currently framed. It may change in future or it may not.
Very well said. As much as I am in disagreement with pledging allegiance to the Queen and not the Cdn Flag, I would still say the oath in its proper form. As future citizens, we can all work to maybe change the pledge.
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You were wrong. A non-violent Gandhi was insipration to Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King Junior.
If armed struggle would produce better results, look at Palestine and it's suicide bombers. It didn't produce the desired result besides making the world more sympathetic towards Israel.
Good to know some ppl. were inspired by him. Not me. As I said it lead to thousand more being dead because of his idea of non voilence. Otherwise we would have acheived freedom way before 1947
If that's true maybe they should have let the world war 2 continue for 5 -6 yrs more. Had America not bombed Japan WW2 could have continued more yrs. Actually according to you, every country should have said, hey guys come we will not raise our arms, but you can keep on killing us. We'll all follow Gandhi's principle. Hey we could all be Nazi's then. Actually today the whole world would be a Nazi world.
Though I can't fully support Bush for everything, but Terrorists are becoming an issue across the globe. Good for him by putting terror in their hearts for a change. Or maybe everyone should have again followed Gandhi's principle.
There is a limit till where trying to keep peace etc work. After that it's war.
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India being a democracy has all the valves to reduce the pressures in a social system that practices caste based divisions - a small upper caste elite enjoying the most of the wealth while a large lower caste never recieved it's rightful place before independence.
Show me which country in this world doesn't have this problem. Same thing here in Canada, USA. Richer are just getting more richer, while poorer or lower middle class are just some making their ends meet. Also don't thk that all the lower class are really poor. Go to a dhobi ghaat where the dhobi's live and clean clothes. Check their houses. They have AC's, cars, hifi stereo systems, washers etc in their houses, while most lower middle class working after educating themselves can't even afford a scooter easily. The reason being is no charges for electricity as they steal it, no tax on salary, no water charges .........................
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