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Originally posted by web2000
On what basis u r commenting if u did not read the thread completely?

Well, I don't mind even if you treat my solution like a joke. Either you have hard time understanding it(You picked a right 'Avatar') or you don't want to.

My main concern to put my ideas was to get input from smart people who honestly can pin point the flaw.

90% of the people even don't know how to define an identity of a person.

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I won't talk for others - but I am not one of those Smart people around you. "Its not You, Its Me". Don't deter from your Path. You'll find right ears & eyes.

I didn't have a say in the way current system is running. I don't have a choice but to accept it, understand it and protect myself.

Your system has flaws but I am out of it when you say it is 100% and Hackers cannot break everything. But that does not mean that you drop your ideas - keep pursuing it. People did laugh at Newtons also but everybody now knows what he did & what he meant.

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I don't have a choice but to accept it, understand it and protect myself

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WEB2000,

First, on a public forum and especially when you are asking people's opinion for flaws in your logic/solution, you need to be more tolerant and open to criticism. Some comments may have merit others may be fooling around, you have to take all this within your stride. The moment you are 100% sure your solution is 100% accurate and foolproof, you are closing yourself to discussion and then there is no point in anyone wasting thier time to review your logic/solution. Also, it is time you get this solution patented and sell it to an interested buyer. Its all in your belief.

Coming to the issue of identity threat, the most common issue is with use/misuse of Credit cards. Please verify how much loss is there due to CC issued to an imposter and what is the loss due to misuse of an already validated/activated CC. Please comment if that is a valid reason to go to all that length.

The second and more damaging issue is the RE transactions be it purchase/sale of property or issue of mortgage loans against someone else's property. Here, instead of creating millions of NEW identity records for ALL the people who may or may not need anything of the RE market, it will be sheer waste of time and $$. Instead, to get just the buyer and seller photographed and stored electronically with the document, will kill 99.9% of the imposters. This is limited to only those transaction which go for registration and hence 'others' are not troubled.

I dont have time to go into length for other possible misuse of Identity theft, but I believe that above 2 represent the most serious cases.

Once again, I hope you are open to discussion and keep your cool while reviewing this post.

All the best.

Hiren

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Originally posted by hchheda
The moment you are 100% sure your solution is 100% accurate and foolproof, you are closing yourself to discussion and then there is no point in anyone wasting thier time to review your logic/solution. Also, it is time you get this solution patented and sell it to an interested buyer. Its all in your belief.

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There is a contradiction in your statement. If you are not smart then why u say that the system has flaws?

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That means you agree that current system is wrong

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You picked a right 'Avatar'

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WEB2000,

First, on a public forum and especially when you are asking people's opinion for flaws in your logic/solution, you need to be more tolerant and open to criticism. Some comments may have merit others may be fooling around, you have to take all this within your stride. The moment you are 100% sure your solution is 100% accurate and foolproof, you are closing yourself to discussion and then there is no point in anyone wasting thier time to review your logic/solution. Also, it is time you get this solution patented and sell it to an interested buyer. Its all in your belief.

Coming to the issue of identity threat, the most common issue is with use/misuse of Credit cards. Please verify how much loss is there due to CC issued to an imposter and what is the loss due to misuse of an already validated/activated CC. Please comment if that is a valid reason to go to all that length.

The second and more damaging issue is the RE transactions be it purchase/sale of property or issue of mortgage loans against someone else's property. Here, instead of creating millions of NEW identity records for ALL the people who may or may not need anything of the RE market, it will be sheer waste of time and $$. Instead, to get just the buyer and seller photographed and stored electronically with the document, will kill 99.9% of the imposters. This is limited to only those transaction which go for registration and hence 'others' are not troubled.

I dont have time to go into length for other possible misuse of Identity theft, but I believe that above 2 represent the most serious cases.

Once again, I hope you are open to discussion and keep your cool while reviewing this post.

All the best.

Hiren

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The moment you are 100% sure your solution is 100% accurate and foolproof, you are closing yourself to discussion and then there is no point in anyone wasting thier time to review your logic/solution. Also, it is time you get this solution patented and sell it to an interested buyer. Its all in your belief.

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WEB2000, Above is the very reason I said "I am out of here" ... No mater what I say & ask you to improve - you can't better your 100%.

I'll try to answer some of your queries -

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There is a contradiction in your statement. If you are not smart then why u say that the system has flaws?

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My words were "but I am not one of those Smart people around you".

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I never said, current system is 100% Secure. That's why the whole debate. I would not have participated otherwise.

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You picked a right 'Avatar'

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At least you got this part. This was my way of expressing. Yes, I changed my Avatar after you claimed that "It will protect u 100% not 99%" and "BTW, I tell you that hackers cannot break everything." I would have pressed "Mute" button on phone, if were talking at that time.

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Mr. Web2000, Can you please show us a 100% fool proof solution to anything in the world. (No, your solution doesnt count for this qn)

To my humble knowledge, there is nothing 100% fool proof or definite.

Just the fact that u claim/feel/whatever your solution is 100% fool proof is something to be looked upon.

And, making something foolproof maynot be the solution or even desired upon. If that was the case, we would be living like robots...with everything and every action pre-defined and calculated.

I would personally prefer convenience, minimum time and minimum interaction over something that will take away these. I once applied for a credit card by a bank and mistakenly they had my cell number,. So when I called to activate, they asked me to go to a branch with identification. Guess what happened, I was denied, even after showing them my SIN, drivers license, passport, PR card, other credit cards etc..... just because I had shaved my head and nobody in the branch could identify me from the pics. Even my signature won't do. Appearance is not a definite proof, it can change drastically over time. It took me over two weeks to get that card activated. What a horrible waste of time and mental pain. (This incident is being quoted here as an example only)

I would personally prefer tough laws to deal with identity theft than to implement something that would inconvenience people.

And btw, i'm not going to spend anymore time replying to you, just because your reading comprehension lacks even the basic skills.

If you feel passionate about your work, there are lot of avenues to publish it, even a letter to your local newspaper will do the trick.

PS: Identity theft does covers a lot more area than your proposed solution targets, as you are already aware. So just to target a small part of it, and claim to be the one and all solution, is just immature...IMHO.

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Originally posted by Warrior

Mr. Web2000, Can you please show us a 100% fool proof solution to anything in the world. (No, your solution doesnt count for this qn)

To my humble knowledge, there is nothing 100% fool proof or definite.

Just the fact that u claim/feel/whatever your solution is 100% fool proof is something to be looked upon.

And, making something foolproof maynot be the solution or even desired upon. If that was the case, we would be living like robots...with everything and every action pre-defined and calculated.

I would personally prefer convenience, minimum time and minimum interaction over something that will take away these. I once applied for a credit card by a bank and mistakenly they had my cell number,. So when I called to activate, they asked me to go to a branch with identification. Guess what happened, I was denied, even after showing them my SIN, drivers license, passport, PR card, other credit cards etc..... just because I had shaved my head and nobody in the branch could identify me from the pics. Even my signature won't do. Appearance is not a definite proof, it can change drastically over time. It took me over two weeks to get that card activated. What a horrible waste of time and mental pain. (This incident is being quoted here as an example only)

I would personally prefer tough laws to deal with identity theft than to implement something that would inconvenience people.

And btw, i'm not going to spend anymore time replying to you, just because your reading comprehension lacks even the basic skills.

If you feel passionate about your work, there are lot of avenues to publish it, even a letter to your local newspaper will do the trick.

PS: Identity theft does covers a lot more area than your proposed solution targets, as you are already aware. So just to target a small part of it, and claim to be the one and all solution, is just immature...IMHO.

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