dhaikin   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 18:38:11

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Did you ask Prashant Bhushan if those views were his personal or the AAP. I personally opine that Kashmir should be indepandant. So what?



Who cares about your personal opinion. But when you give such a statement representing a political party, then the opinion matters.

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This is the sole intention of Kejrival



How do you know, what are his intentions.. He has proven in his short history that he doesn't cares for those with whom he started the movement "Anna".. Do we need any more proof, Do we have time to experiment of such irresponsible personality..

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Originally posted by febpreet
Hung mandate is far superior and better than the absolute power. Especially, in Indian context.



Now you have started expressing view just for the sake of it (this is just pure irresponsible statement). Hung mandate is always bad for Good governance, as it promotes unfair practices..



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 18:53:59

Unfair practices? As if the whole Polity is utterly clean, or the alternatives are that great. At least we have an individual whose track record we all are aware of. Actions speak louder than words.

As for the intentions, that's exactly my point. We take the politians based upon their agenda, track record, and face value before the elections. Tell me who has the cleanest track record?

Even if Kejrival delivers 5% of what he says, I will go with him - rather than the tried and tested douche bags ruling India since the independance. And, this also includes BJP.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 19:14:45

How dumb can one be? Khujliwal is a Kangress nominee. He talks about socialism. Can someone tell me name of a country where socialism has ever worked? Even a countries like USA and EU are in deep shit. The only reason they still survive is because they have capacity to print currency, which is, accepted the world over. India cannot replicate that model. Indian rupee is not accepted anywhere outside India. Khujliwal is another Manmohan created by Kangress. It is sad that even so called educated people have branded Khujliwal as “honest” If history has any lesson to teach, it is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Manmohan is a live example. All those who are 6o years and above would perhaps be able to recall that Lalu, Paswan, Mulayam and Deve gowda are all product of the great J.P. Movement. They rode on JP movement bandwagon and once they assumed power, they proved to be no less than Kangress leaders. Khujliwal rode on Anna movement and now is poised to assume power. Khujliwal is most despicable person like MMS because he does not mean a word of the rubbish he talks. An honest person would be more forthcoming and would acknowledge that in today’s world, Govt.’s function is to set policies which would promote growth and create job and wealth – not redistribute To that end , NaMo is the one only politician who has proved his point. I wonder at wishful thinking of people that Khujliwal will provide corruption free Govt. Those who have such wishful thinking forget that main source of corruption is Govt.’s policy of License-Permit-quota raj. Again those wishful thinking people forget that their “comrades” communist rascals have been in power for many years in W.B> and Kerala and they have proved to be equally, if not more, corrupt than Kangress.

I wrote before. A person should be judged from his record and not what he speaks. Khujliwal has no record. I would like to see him functioning as politician for a few years before I would vote for him

Khujliwal is part of bigger game of Kangress. Kangress beat up Ramdev and made Anna sweat and fast. Kangress bribed Khujliwal and Kangress paid media is in forefront in promoting Khujliwal. His moronic rant about socialism and fairy tales about his integrity and honesty (remember accolades to MMS? LOL) is replayed everyday on social media.

Anyone who has followed Bhusan would know that he is well known black mailer of Delhi.

However, I concede that Kangress strategy has absolutely worked.

In delhi, there are only two outcomes possible.
1. Khujliwal gets majority and forms the Govt
2. Khujliwal forms Govt with support of Kangress.

Depending upon the outcome, Kangress will field AAP candidates in all important cities of India (Only Urban voters would fall for AAP. Rural voters do not have proficiency in English and hence cannot understand passion of Khujliwal)

The bigger game of Kangress is to field AAP candidates and defeat Modi.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 19:51:29

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Originally posted by Nightmare

in today’s world, Govt.’s function is to set policies which would promote growth and create job and wealth – not redistribute To that end ,



I am with you on that. However, it's easier said than done in the vote grabbing, vote bank, and seggregated Indian politics. India is still riding on the shoulders of US economy. One sneeze and the outsourcing industry catches a flu every now and then.

Job creation, wealth, and I must add 'Innovation' are a distant dream until/unless India has its own domestic strength and policies in order, rather than riding on US ecconomy and industry. In this aspect, no single Party has clear policies, leave aside AAP. They all promise and then prove to be a damp squib for the next 5 years, if come to power. They all criticize Govt. when in opposition, but when assume power they don't change a single thing/policy that they had been critisizing about.

AAP is a congress stooge, agent, etc. is all speculation without a valid proof; and yet to be seen. Objectively speaking, noone knows about it for sure. At least, they have a clear agenda and the public is following wisely because they are fed up with the BS, and have a visible choice - at least on a face value. AAP deserves a chance to prove themselves. Even if they prove to be the same as all others, the electorate would know in a due process and time. Despite of everything their detractors say, I have a complete confidence on AAP.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 21:05:16

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Originally posted by febpreet

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Originally posted by Nightmare

in today’s world, Govt.’s function is to set policies which would promote growth and create job and wealth – not redistribute To that end ,



I am with you on that. However, it's easier said than done in the vote grabbing, vote bank, and seggregated Indian politics. India is still riding on the shoulders of US economy. One sneeze and the outsourcing industry catches a flu every now and then.

Job creation, wealth, and I must add 'Innovation' are a distant dream until/unless India has its own domestic strength and policies in order, rather than riding on US ecconomy and industry. In this aspect, no single Party has clear policies, leave aside AAP. They all promise and then prove to be a damp squib for the next 5 years, if come to power. They all criticize Govt. when in opposition, but when assume power they don't change a single thing/policy that they had been critisizing about.

AAP is a congress stooge, agent, etc. is all speculation without a valid proof; and yet to be seen. Objectively speaking, noone knows about it for sure. At least, they have a clear agenda and the public is following wisely because they are fed up with the BS, and have a visible choice - at least on a face value. AAP deserves a chance to prove themselves. Even if they prove to be the same as all others, the electorate would know in a due process and time. Despite of everything their detractors say, I have a complete confidence on AAP.



Good that you have confidence in AAP. We live our life based on faith and confidence based on the faith (in absence of proof to the contrary).

Just saying that in politics, our faith and confidence have real consequences. One great example is Hillary Vs. Obama Vs. Romney. American people had opportunity to select any of these three. Obama won. He has irrevocably taken USA to the path of socialism. When health care, which is 23% of GDP of the nation is put under Govt. control, it has real and ever lasting consequences.

2014 is going to be watershed election for India. No previous election has been fought on two different ideologies, agenda and personalities. The result will have monumental consequences. My only regret is that a fake guy like Arvind is going to damage polity beyond repair.

I appreciate that you have a very different take on Khujliwal. I understand that too. There are many (In fact most of the “educated”) who oppose my view of Khujliwal. When we are discussing Khujliwal politics in person, I always make a point to ask a question –“How did you or on what basis did you form your opinion of Khujliwal?” Invariably, it is based on English Media and I have absolutely no faith on them (You should listen to Neera Radia tapes on youtube about paid media and their Pandits).

I would, though concede your point and agree that Khujliwal would be next CM of Delhi.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-10-13 22:41:24

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I would, though concede your point and agree that Khujliwal would be next CM of Delhi.



Its impossible that Kejriwal can be CM of delhi on his own strength . His only strength is to cut BJP 's vote which may result in hung assembly . About his influence in other cities of india to cut BJP's vote share is negligible . To win election you need dedicated workers which AAP doesn't have . SO he can be a factor in delhi but not in rest of the India .
Real threat to NAMO is from regional parties like AIDMK , SP , BSP , CPI, CPIM , Biju JD, YSR Congress , JD , RJD . As these parties have significant influence in their area and most of the anti congress votes will go to these parties and after election all these parties will support congress on the name of secularism . I am sure congress is no way in picture for 2014 election on his own . The real opposition to BJP is from all these regional parties and NAMO is not acceptable to them



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