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Posted on: 17-05-08 21:02:37
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Originally posted by JRF
Again it couldn't be just the monotheism but the other common grounds including middle eastern origin, and possibly others.
Money / power does the trick too plus caste based suppression (caste system does strongly exist among south Indian Muslims and christians as like Hindu community though their religion doesn't appear to advocate).
You know what I would still call all religious conversion has mostly to do with either money, power, women and some sort mirage kind of promises one settles down naively.
More over to my observation, the failed ones (one or other way in their life) turn more focussed towards religion to ease of their stress / vent their frustration than already happy going ones.
Bit of digression but yet it flows.
So basically a conversion (be it to Islam, christianity, Budhism or hare krishna) fulfills a need that an individual person seeks based on his/her circumstances. If an ideology/concept can fulfill those specific needs people will accept based on their free will and personal outlook.
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Originally posted by jake3d
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
The main objective of church is to convert Hindu(Muslim are hard to conver) in to christianity.
why?Why are muslims harder to convert than hindus?
Because of simple reason as per as Shariyat Law(Sharia law)- to convert to another religion from Islam, you would recieve the death penalty
some of the example
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4823874.stm
Even The country where shariyat law is not applicale by constitute,but Madrasa and other muslim never accept it,Some guy can put bomb in his body and blow entire church.
just see the hierarchy fuction of islam and christianity then you can accept the fact that what force prevent them, Islam work in other way their aim is also to conver whole world in to islam religion.
where hindu temple has no problem or other hindu never take extreme action if some hindu are converting or in trouble.there could be few example but no true hierarchy exist to control hindu religion, some political party do make some noise to stop the conversion but Ved or Geeta doesn't say you would get death penalty if you wish to do so.
church also try to convert muslim but ofcourse hindu are soft target for missionaries becuase of thier level of tolerance.
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but Ved or Geeta doesn't say you would get death penalty if you wish to do so.
seems like an enlightened approach.
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church also try to convert muslim but ofcourse hindu are soft target for missionaries becuase of thier level of tolerance.
Well finally it comes down to if the ideology is acceptable on a personal basis or not. So unless you want a country to be an 'islamic', 'christian' or 'hindu' state conversions should be acceptable right? In a free society, one should be able to convert and convert back and convert again...to any of the religions, if you find that it fits your needs?
Of course, its all moot if one wants a state based on religion.
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http://www.geocities.com/pak_history/punjabis.html
The Rajput people of Rajasthan moved from Russia in the 5 th or 6 th century and were mass converted to Hinduism by the Pandit's.
Same with the Assamese people they were migrants from Cambodia and Thailand in the 5 th century and were converted to Hinduism.
Lately there have been no Hindu conversions.
LEADING TRIBES OF PUNJAB AND THEIR ORIGINS
Before the advent of Islam, but after the Aryan migrations, several invasions and mass migrations of the Central Asian tribes named as the Sakas, Parthians, Kushans, Huns and Gujjars took place in the Punjab (and other parts of Pakistan). The last two tribes i.e. the Huns (White Huns/ Epthalites) and Gujjars arrived in the 5th century AD when Hinduism had revived under the Gupta Empire but had not fully succeeded in crushing the influence of Buddhism. As the Gupta Empire collapsed under the impact of Hun invasions, it caused deep consternation among Brahmins in view of their failure to eliminate Buddhism while the Gupta power supporting them in this task had disappeared. Therefore, they began to make overtures to the new arrivals who were valiant, vigorous and warlike. They were offered the rank of Kshatryas in the Hindu fold, a position only next to that of the Brahmins and confers the responsiblity of rulership
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You know you are a desi when ........ You spew forth the virtues of India, but don't want to live there...............You've never had a tanning salon membership
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Originally posted by Loser
http://www.geocities.com/pak_history/punjabis.html
wow awesome link! So the only 'real' hindus are probably the ones from the extreme south of India
. Its ironic that the very factors that are said to be in play now (power, acceptance, upward mobility etc) were also at play during those times.Round and round we go.
So is there only one way to the 'truth' or are there many?
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Also interesting to note...according to the last para that the Muslim rulers were in a way responsible for putting together the 'India' we see today.
Things are not 'black' and 'white' as most of us think, eh?
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Loser the link you have put up is from one of the Pakistani websites, they have a different prespective on history. They have to show that their area was never part of Indian subcontinent, so they come up with these theories. They consider themselves part of arabia and not aryans ..... funnily the Iranians are proud of being Aryans apart from Indians, so dont know how an arabic community sprung up between iran and india. So take this info with a pinch of salt ...
