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delhise   
Member since: Sep 10
Posts: 7
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 18:08:42

Thanks my dear friends for your kind suggestions. Montreal or moving any other place like Saskatoon is not my choice. Its purely economic and growth related. I am financially not strong. Whatever I brought (abt $18000) during immigration as what was min requirement for my family size and the landing fee, airfares etc, I have left few hundred dollars from it only. I sold my property back to raise this money and now its gone spent on grocery and settling. The earnings I made were only survival to be able to eat and pay rent. Whatever I saved was gone due to one urgent travel to India and back which cost in thousands of dollars.

So basicaly I have no choice.I only have money to buy tickets for me and family to move once and for all, wether it be in Canada or India. If I go back to India, I will have to live in rented homes and property is very expensive to buy these days there. Also jobwise I will have to struggle for few months before I get back on track. Other option is to move to a province which is cheaper to survive and pick any job. I have worked in warehouse and security guard for most of time in Canada. I think at least I can find any of these jobs. Since rate of pay is not very different for these jobs but if I can manage to reduce my expenses by moving to cheaper province, I think I can survive and save better. Thats the only motive. If I can save and buy a small home my target will be half achieved.

I have heard NEW BRUNSWICK has very cheap homes as well. Does any one had expereince living there. Please help as I have only few months of money left after which I will be condemned to move into cheap but bad neighbourhoods in old dungeon like homes and I dont want my family to rot in there because I failed earning a decent life for them in a promised land.



delhise   
Member since: Sep 10
Posts: 7
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-10 19:07:42

Quote:
Originally posted by ashedfc
Get serious my friend, We see a lot of new immigrants go through this problem. First of all, why choose an expensive province (like BC), expensive neighborhood, expensive cars, large mortgage, etc. etc.
Family members (most of them do not understand financial implications of running broke) will mostly ask for the best. Its you who have to decide - To live within your means.
In your case-
1. Arrange your lifestyle according to your income.
2. Follow a spending record - to find out how & where you can save money.
3. Obviously moving to a reasonable cost of living city makes sense (Province has no meaning, as you live in the city - not the province).
4. Buying a house - will make matters more complicated - in rent you can downsize & reduce your cost; however, in a house there is only foreclosure & after that life is hell.
I can go on an on, but be responsible, as a family person, one do not have the luxury of action replay's.



Do I sound casual here, maybe I have never been more serious all my life. FYI I dont live in expensive neighbourhood, I drive a $400 van, have no mortgage but bills and bills, and we are modest by any means. We cant afford to eat out often. Kids have learnt to not to ask for their things, wife doesnt buy anything expensive or extra, groceries are our main shopping, we dont celebrate birthdays outside, we dont go for holidays, i pay rent which is 72% of my earning and is on outskirts, takes 2 hours commute from work. I have to actually shell out fro my savings many times to pay bills and insurances. My expenses are for basic things but are either equal or occassionally over my earnings. So my calculation has never been better and thatswhy I can see I cant go far with this. I already downsized on everything except moving to less space and cheap neighbourhood for sake of kids but even that would do much as rent their will be max about 50% of my earning, but will be all hell for my kids and family. My first aim is to save in same earning and if required in another city/place where overheads are not as high as BC.



Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 09:55:35

Hi Friend
I’m surprise you are not able to find survival job in BC

Anyways, you really are in trouble then I can offer you two choices from my side( I’m not filthy rich but I will try to help in my limits) -

First:
Move to Montreal, i have some contact there ..Once u r in Montreal , send me quick e-mail , i will be able to get you survival job . Rent is very cheap...as i said move to Parc-X area (where lot of desi reside) - find the cheapest 1 BDR rent ( 450$/per month) - stay there get some sort of stability than if you want you can move to your dream place.

Second:
You can also come to Toronto (where i live now) - I will hook u up with labor job for survival - you can find basement rent ( 800$/per month) - it will be lil expensive than Montreal but you will have better chances of getting what you aim for in Canada.

go where ever you can find the job ( continue income is what you need for now)

so drop me quick email once u r in montreal and i will give you my contact info



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pokiri   
Member since: Nov 09
Posts: 135
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 14:00:58

delhise , sorry to hear this. Pls let me know ( you can PM me) a little about your profile and the place you moved. Not sure.. but I will try a little help. I will keep an eye on our internal postings and will try to forward you the same. I am not a big head or decision maker here but just want to give a try.. Good luck.



dan   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 449
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-10 14:14:31

Quote:
Originally posted by delhise

Quote:
Originally posted by ashedfc
Get serious my friend, We see a lot of new immigrants go through this problem. First of all, why choose an expensive province (like BC), expensive neighborhood, expensive cars, large mortgage, etc. etc.
Family members (most of them do not understand financial implications of running broke) will mostly ask for the best. Its you who have to decide - To live within your means.
In your case-
1. Arrange your lifestyle according to your income.
2. Follow a spending record - to find out how & where you can save money.
3. Obviously moving to a reasonable cost of living city makes sense (Province has no meaning, as you live in the city - not the province).
4. Buying a house - will make matters more complicated - in rent you can downsize & reduce your cost; however, in a house there is only foreclosure & after that life is hell.
I can go on an on, but be responsible, as a family person, one do not have the luxury of action replay's.



Do I sound casual here, maybe I have never been more serious all my life. FYI I dont live in expensive neighbourhood, I drive a $400 van, have no mortgage but bills and bills, and we are modest by any means. We cant afford to eat out often. Kids have learnt to not to ask for their things, wife doesnt buy anything expensive or extra, groceries are our main shopping, we dont celebrate birthdays outside, we dont go for holidays, i pay rent which is 72% of my earning and is on outskirts, takes 2 hours commute from work. I have to actually shell out fro my savings many times to pay bills and insurances. My expenses are for basic things but are either equal or occassionally over my earnings. So my calculation has never been better and thatswhy I can see I cant go far with this. I already downsized on everything except moving to less space and cheap neighbourhood for sake of kids but even that would do much as rent their will be max about 50% of my earning, but will be all hell for my kids and family. My first aim is to save in same earning and if required in another city/place where overheads are not as high as BC.




yup, get out of BC first. Weather is great but its way too expensive. Thats why Saskatoon or even GTA is not bad really to start. Montreal is tough for the reasons mentioned in one of the above posts.



delhise   
Member since: Sep 10
Posts: 7
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-10 18:36:52

Well friends just to show the extent of expectations in BC I recollect here a interview whch I gave last week for a petty warehouse labor position picked up General Labor category on Craiglist.

The interview went for 1.5 hrs.

I was asked about Harvard University , SAP Expereince, LEAN technology, JIT, Production planning, Matierials Management PCC, PLCs and methods for Human behaviour to react to change, establishing uniform practices for line production integration with inventory and orders using SAP and other WH Inventory managment skills, Joint venture managment, and so on and on........

Being an MBA from India helped and my experience in manufacturing and stock managment helped me answer and even suggest solutions to their problems, where they didnot know how much there inventory was worth and what was in it. The company was suffering by not being able to produce the orders as noone knew where the inputs were or were they even ordered. The WH Inv was all setup but noone knew what to do.

So after discussing all managment principles, softwares, theories and what not, I was told that they will take a decision in a day or so.

All this for a job which they wanted to pay $12-14 anhour and that too was to be negotiated and the work was manual labor counting the inventory item by item all day and placing in bins.

And eventually they decided I was too lowly educated for this as well.........I love this place......



hchheda   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 2245
Location: Woodbridge

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-10 19:57:57

Quote:
Originally posted by delhise

Well friends just to show the extent of expectations in BC I recollect here a interview whch I gave last week for a petty warehouse labor position picked up General Labor category on Craiglist.

The interview went for 1.5 hrs.

I was asked about Harvard University , SAP Expereince, LEAN technology, JIT, Production planning, Matierials Management PCC, PLCs and methods for Human behaviour to react to change, establishing uniform practices for line production integration with inventory and orders using SAP and other WH Inventory managment skills, Joint venture managment, and so on and on........

Being an MBA from India helped and my experience in manufacturing and stock managment helped me answer and even suggest solutions to their problems, where they didnot know how much there inventory was worth and what was in it. The company was suffering by not being able to produce the orders as noone knew where the inputs were or were they even ordered. The WH Inv was all setup but noone knew what to do.

So after discussing all managment principles, softwares, theories and what not, I was told that they will take a decision in a day or so.

All this for a job which they wanted to pay $12-14 anhour and that too was to be negotiated and the work was manual labor counting the inventory item by item all day and placing in bins.

And eventually they decided I was too lowly educated for this as well.........I love this place......



You are intelligent - but you need to be 'Street Smart'.

I am not sure if you suggested the 'actual' solution or just a general idea, but 'IF' the company is big enough and if you think they can afford to pay you say $60K-70K, then I suggest you write a thank you letter to them. In the thank you letter, let them know that what they need is not a WH labour but an inventory Manager (cost $60K - your estimated demand) who can generate atleast $500K from smart inventory management, thereby paying for yourself and more. At the same time, as a true MBA, send them a chart of projected increase in revenue for the next 5 years.

Please do this exercise only if you feel the company will be able to afford and has a potential to save at least $300K in inventory management.

It doesn't matter what the job is advertised for - sometimes if you are able to impress the higher management, they might create a position for your expertise. You can also offer to take it as a project where your payment is % of their savings.

With an MBA, starting thinking in terms of business - stop serving these low lives.

Good luck.

Hiren.





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