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Gurram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 09:46:38


dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 16:50:22

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Originally posted by Gurram

May be in some other places too ...

http://www.funzug.com/index.php/funny-pictures/it-happens-only-in-india.html



I can't read the local text....so, what's the "child bear"? I am sure it's translation gone bad...but I didn't get it.

Sadhu with a cell phone and a smoke...quite inspiring :p


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sudesingh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 17:11:21

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Originally posted by dimple2001

I can't read the local text....so, what's the "child bear"? I am sure it's translation gone bad...but I didn't get it.




The Hindi text reads - Govt. authorised Cold/Chilled Beer Store


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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 17:15:52

Quote:
Originally posted by sudesingh

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

I can't read the local text....so, what's the "child bear"? I am sure it's translation gone bad...but I didn't get it.




The Hindi text reads - Govt. authorised Cold/Chilled Beer Store




Thanks.

I thought it was a translation for a mid-wives "clinic"...you know child birth and all... :p

Alright...I was way off...heck, so was the translation.... :p


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Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 17:54:38

Dimple was partly right.

From the following story a child bear is also possible,

http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/babiespregnancy/article/910085--baby-quest-traps-couple-in-india

Baby quest traps couple in India
December 21, 2010

Raveena Aulakh

STAFF REPORTER

They tried unsuccessfully for years, including intensive fertility treatments at three hospitals. Finally, the Toronto couple — both Canadian citizens — travelled to India where they could hire a surrogate. The eggs were donated by an unknown woman and fertilized by the husband’s sperm; the surrogate was pregnant with twins on the second try.

There was joy and celebration, which continued until the babies, a boy and a girl, were born in March 2006.

But the couple’s joie de vivre was soon shattered when they went to the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi to apply for proof of Canadian citizenship for the twins to bring them home. DNA tests were requested which, to the couple’s horror, showed the boy was not genetically related, suggesting an error or mix-up in the Indian fertility lab.

Nearly five years later, the couple remains stranded in southern India with no family or friends, money, or furniture for their tiny apartment. They rarely step outside for fear of being discovered and deported to Canada.

“It’s really sad . . . it’s been more than four years and nothing has happened,” said Michael Battista, the Toronto lawyer retained by the couple this summer. “They feel abandoned by their government.”

Theirs is a story of the still unchartered territory of commercial surrogacy, unmatched DNA and lost children.

Canada’s Assisted Human Reproduction Act makes it illegal to pay for sperm donors, egg donors or surrogates. When it was passed in 2004, experts worried it would result in Canadians travelling abroad to pay for those services, which could result in complicated situations — like the one the Toronto couple is now caught in.

If children born through surrogacy have a genetic link to one Canadian parent, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) grants status through family class sponsorship or directly by applying for citizenship. There is no policy to address a situation where an obvious error has occurred, said Battista.

In August, Battista and his law partner, Kelly Jordan, obtained a “declaration of parentage” from an Ontario family court judge.

“He declared our clients to be parents since the time of birth and I forwarded that to the CIC office but there has been no reply,” Battista said.

The lawyers had approached the Federal court in October demanding CIC address the citizenship and passport issue.

However, an Immigration official said Monday if no genetic link is confirmed between a child born abroad to a surrogate and a Canadian parent, the child is not automatically a Canadian citizen.

“In this situation, prospective parents will experience additional difficulties both in being permitted by the country of the child’s birth to leave that country with the child and in returning to Canada with the child,” said CIC spokesperson Melanie Carkner.

Without citizenship status, the child will have no legal right to enter Canada and will have to apply to come to Canada through the immigration stream, she said, adding this case “appears rather unusual.”

Meanwhile, the couple from Toronto is adamant the boy is theirs — even if he isn’t genetically. And their long-drawn-out fight is taking its toll on the family.

In a letter outlining their plight obtained by the Star, the couple said they have had to quit their jobs, sell their house in Toronto to pay living and other expenses, and now live in a one-bedroom apartment without furniture.

They claim living conditions are awful — sometimes the sewer system is blocked, often there is no electricity and their basic means of transportation is a rickety bicycle.

“Here we are experiencing a lot of difficulties and suffering,” they said in the letter. Except for school each day, the twins are not allowed outside because the couple fears they will be discovered living illegally, they wrote.

“Why is the Canadian government not helping us come back to Canada with our twin children? When will we settle,” they asked.

The couple can return to Canada with the daughter but they refuse to abandon the boy who they have raised as their son.

In their 50s, the couple is adamant about keeping their identities hidden cause of the stigma attached to surrogacy — often it means either the eggs or sperm, or both, are donated.

“They are also at their wits’ end,” said Battista. “This has gone on for way too long.”

The lawyer, a specialist in immigration and refugee law, says he has been approached by others in similar circumstances, but the couple is his law firm’s first clients facing this situation.

“As more and more people discover new reproductive techniques, it will bring its share of problems,” he said. “The question is, do we penalize parents and children for a mistake made by somebody else?”

It’s a question other couples have battled in the past.

In April, the Star’s Rick Westhead wrote about a Canadian couple, both doctors, who travelled to a city in western India in search of a surrogate to carry their fertilized eggs to term. They found one, and she bore them twins.

But when the couple went to the Canadian High Commission in New Delhi for travel documents, DNA tests showed that both babies were not related to the Canadian couple or to the birth mother. They were the product of fertilized eggs from a different, unknown couple.

The doctors left India devastated while the twins most likely went to an orphanage.


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Smiley   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 18:38:07

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

Quote:
Originally posted by Gurram

May be in some other places too ...

http://www.funzug.com/index.php/funny-pictures/it-happens-only-in-india.html



I can't read the local text....so, what's the "child bear"? I am sure it's translation gone bad...but I didn't get it.

Sadhu with a cell phone and a smoke...quite inspiring :p





I think it is supposed to mean CHILLED BEER


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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-12-10 18:50:36

Quote:
Originally posted by Vandematram


The doctors left India devastated while the twins most likely went to an orphanage.




Unfortunately, without proof of genetics, emigration from India and immigration into Canada is impossible.

The only choice they have is to proceed for an international adoption that would legalize the process in their province, Canada and India.

Sad, indeed.


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