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Posted on: 26-04-11 15:26:27
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Originally posted by DesiBabu70
Quote:and how is that Harper's fault?
Originally posted by Desi # 1
We sell oil to US but we pay more on gas stations, $1.35 per litre which amounts to $5.22 per gallon vs. $4 gallon in US. We fly down south to buy cheap and better stuff but reluctant to buy stuff here because it is 24% costlier in Canada even if one 1 CAD = 1.05$US.
do you want Harper to weaken the Canadian dollar so that it is back to 60c. like it used to be in the early 2000s?
you are simply blaming Harper for anything and everything that you perceive to be wrong with the country and not giving him any credit for anything that you consider good in the country.
good economy = not Harper's credit.
High gas prices = Harper's fault
Strong CDN $ = Harper's fault
Immigration backlog = Harper's fault
you are totally partisan.
you are just buying into all the left rhetoric.
do you not honestly realize what will happen in NDP comes to power?
i think Iggy's goose is cooked.
he won't even be 2nd party any more.
if you really wanna talk about why gas prices are high and why things are more expensive here, sure we can talk about that.
part of the reason is our high taxes.
ever noticed the amount of taxes included in gas prices.
in Ontario we pay 13% on everything.
how about we start by reducing that to 7%?
let's start with dumping another joker - McGuinty - from the provincial parliament, and then we can start taking about why we pay so much for goods.
also, briefly, strong CDN $ is a very good thing for us.
do you honestly not realize what will happen if our CDN $ becomes less than US$ when US$ has already depreciated so much in last 5 years?
where did I say, high CAD $ is harper's fault, I said we are not getting any benefit of high $ because there is gauging by Oil companies. Read the message clearly....how can Costco sell gas 7cent cheaper than other gas stations run by same companies from which Costco buys the gas. Costco buys from Shell. That clearly means we do not have a government who can watch consumer interest. I am not asking to intervene in open economy but least be smart to take some concrete actions as was done in internet UBB. Harper will give tax breaks to these companies when economists has said that lowering Corporate Taxes will not generate further employment.
Excluding Alberta, all provinces have 13% HST not only Ontario.
I am eagerly waiting for NDP to come to power as I know they will screw up everything else which Harper could not do. I agree with you I do not trust Jack as PM on handling the power. It will be too much for him.
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Originally posted by Desi # 1
Quote:
Originally posted by DesiBabu70
Quote:and how is that Harper's fault?
Originally posted by Desi # 1
We sell oil to US but we pay more on gas stations, $1.35 per litre which amounts to $5.22 per gallon vs. $4 gallon in US. We fly down south to buy cheap and better stuff but reluctant to buy stuff here because it is 24% costlier in Canada even if one 1 CAD = 1.05$US.
do you want Harper to weaken the Canadian dollar so that it is back to 60c. like it used to be in the early 2000s?
you are simply blaming Harper for anything and everything that you perceive to be wrong with the country and not giving him any credit for anything that you consider good in the country.
good economy = not Harper's credit.
High gas prices = Harper's fault
Strong CDN $ = Harper's fault
Immigration backlog = Harper's fault
you are totally partisan.
you are just buying into all the left rhetoric.
do you not honestly realize what will happen in NDP comes to power?
i think Iggy's goose is cooked.
he won't even be 2nd party any more.
if you really wanna talk about why gas prices are high and why things are more expensive here, sure we can talk about that.
part of the reason is our high taxes.
ever noticed the amount of taxes included in gas prices.
in Ontario we pay 13% on everything.
how about we start by reducing that to 7%?
let's start with dumping another joker - McGuinty - from the provincial parliament, and then we can start taking about why we pay so much for goods.
also, briefly, strong CDN $ is a very good thing for us.
do you honestly not realize what will happen if our CDN $ becomes less than US$ when US$ has already depreciated so much in last 5 years?
where did I say, high CAD $ is harper's fault, I said we are not getting any benefit of high $ because there is gauging by Oil companies. Read the message clearly....how can Costco sell gas 7cent cheaper than other gas stations run by same companies from which Costco buys the gas. Costco buys from Shell. That clearly means we do not have a government who can watch consumer interest. I am not asking to intervene in open economy but least be smart to take some concrete actions as was done in internet UBB. Harper will give tax breaks to these companies when economists has said that lowering Corporate Taxes will not generate further employment.
Excluding Alberta, all provinces have 13% HST not only Ontario.
I am eagerly waiting for NDP to come to power as I know they will screw up everything else which Harper could not do. I agree with you I do not trust Jack as PM on handling the power. It will be too much for him.
Which economist said that introducing HST will generate employment?
Other than Ontario and British Columbia no other Canadian provinces has HST. Liberals introduced HST saying it will increase employment which is ridiculous. If reducing corporate taxes does not increase employment what will. In USA, states have 0 or very nominal taxes for corporates. During Liberal's time a lot of companies stopped their Canadian operation to start new USA operation because they were getting tax breaks. Few of my friends lost their jobs. All I can say is common citizens like me should never ever vote for the Liberals. Their policies suck whether its immigration or economy.
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Quote:why does Walmart sell something cheaper than Loblaws?
Originally posted by Desi # 1
how can Costco sell gas 7cent cheaper than other gas stations run by same companies from which Costco buys the gas.
why does Brick sell something cheaper than Ashleys?
why does any one store sell something cheaper than another?
that is competition.
it is basic market economy?
what would you want?
you want the govt. to start interfering with retailers and prices?
you want price regulation like India in the 1970s and the ex socialist countries?
i personally don't see the gas prices as a problem.
in north america we have obviously been abusing and overusing gasoline.
and our governments have long been subsidizing gas for decades and decades....since long before you were born, i'm sure.
i think it is time this protectionism ended and we started paying higher prices like the rest of the world.
europe has been paying almost twice as us for decades.
same for india.
and if price regulation is what you want, why stop at gas?
have you seen the food prices recently?
have you seen the hydro prices recently?
why shouldn't the govt. give us some respite on those?
and you know what : here's the best idea to reduce gas prices - let's start with removing the junk taxes, fees, levies and excises that all levels of govt. are putting into gas.
gas is the cash cow for both federal and provincial governments.
by implementing the HST your dear favorite McGuinty has given his govt. a free 8% raise for doing nothing.
how about we fire 8% of the govt. cut the 8% HST from the price of gas
how about we fire 5% of the federal govt. and then cut the 5% GST from the price of gas.
voila and presto...gas prices will come down by a whopping 13%.
the way forward is not with these socialist dinosaurs from 40 years ago.
many countries have tried and failed.
the way forward is with a flexible open form of govt.
mixed mode health care, with both public and private sector.
lower taxes, reduce size of govt., whack the unions, cut entitled benefits of unioned public sectors that are bankrupting the country, bring the Quebec terrorists under control, etc.
that is the way forward in my vision.
and right now the party closest to this is the Conservatives.
they are not perfect, no politician ever is.
but they are the closest and the best bet at this time.
i have already made my choice and voted this past weekend.
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Originally posted by Nightmare
One should ask a friend/ family member working for Govt and they would enlighten you how conservatives have sidelined immigrants from this important sector which accounts for more than 35% jobs (Govt and public sector together)
Can you provide more details on this statement? Don`t you think conservatives could have a major lawsuit against them if somebody is able to prove that fact?
I would vote for conservatives only because I do not have any other choice - I would not like Ignateiff or Layton as PM.
Conservatives are good for keeping the economic wheel well oiled..
On the flip side Conservatives want to privatize everything, drive test , 407 are a few examples.. if given a chance they will get rid of medical coverage.
Liberals will make the government grow which in some cases this is good.
on flip side it means more taxes..
What is required is the middle ground, which means no clear majority for Conservatives or liberals, making both parties think hard and compromise if they come to power..
I suggest people should vote for current incumbent so that a minority government is returned.
Only exception is dont vote for Ruby Dhallal if she is running in ur constituency.. we dont want to promote indian style god syndromed politicians like her.
I already cast my vote in the early vote for the current incumbent in my constituency.
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Originally posted by meghal
Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare
One should ask a friend/ family member working for Govt and they would enlighten you how conservatives have sidelined immigrants from this important sector which accounts for more than 35% jobs (Govt and public sector together)
Can you provide more details on this statement? Don`t you think conservatives could have a major lawsuit against them if somebody is able to prove that fact?
I would vote for conservatives only because I do not have any other choice - I would not like Ignateiff or Layton as PM.
You know well that it is difficult to PROVE discrimination but it should be easy to "experience" it. I have consistently been arguing on this forum that immigrants have lost focus of the main issue which is well paying job. I am sure you would agree that in Canada well paying job means either Union job or public sector job. I am sure the professionals who have migrated to Canada find all kind of problems in re qualifying here and be part of the "licensed" trade or profession. Apart from that, as I had pointed out earlier, 35% of the jobs are in public sector. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of organizations funded or run by govt money but these jobs are hardly advertised. Unlike India which has UPSC (Union Public Service) exams (with all its imperfections), there is no parallel here. Why would the Govt use my tax money to offer job to connected (read nepotism) people? Now any one can argue like you do that one can file suit for discrimination. However, I would argue that one has to form judgement based on "experience". Try to get in to OPG or Hydro or TTC etc. My humble experience is that there is tremendous nepotism and discrimination, both in recruitment and promotions. Not that I believe that Liberals have a better record. I would , at the time of election, vote out incumbent till a system of fairness and honesty is introduced.
As regards tax policy, I see lot of superfluous discussion on this thread. Many have argued, and correctly that corporate tax increase may drive MNC to other countries. However, "Resource tax" would not. If Govt. increases "Excise" tax on Oil and Mineral resources, MNCs would have to pay as there is tremendous demand for natural resources and they have little option. I am sure that you all are aware that all said and done, Canada still offers better business prospects compared to unreliable Middle east or whimsical Venezuela or unstable Africa. Harpo loses on all these counts.
I would be happy to see Harper back in power with Minority or Liberals with minority or majority. Harper majority would be disaster in true sense for immigrants because of majority of conservative members being anti immigrants. I am little surprised that we are swayed by media stories which are planted as happens in India and the world over. USA and the world is paying price for electing Obama instead of Hillary because of the incessant media hypocrisy. Hope we would go by our "experience" of Harper policies rather than media reports. Ask just ONE question which is fundamental to our prosperity - Are conservative fair to immigrants in providing equal access to public sector jobs? - If your answer is "yes", go wholeheartedly for conservative, If your answer is "No" , vote for opposition. Please do not attack me with arguments that Liberals are no better in this regard, which I admit here but then we kick them out after 4 years. Such voting pattern should be continued till a Govt is installed which provides fair access to taxpayer funded jobs. EQUAL ACCESS TO A WELL PAYING JOB IS MY ONE AND ONLY CRITERIA BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT OPENS DOOR TO A BETTER LIFE.
mr. nightmare....i totally agree with you in the fact that immigrants, particularly visible minories like south asians, are sidelined when it comes to govt. jobs.
highly skilled immigrants are looked over and the jobs go to local, white folks.
it is classical "old boy's club" behavior.
what i don't understand and agree with is how this is the problem of the conservative party and specifically that of Stephen Harper.
he came into power only in 2006 but this has been going on for decades.
in fact it is not the federal party, whichever one it may be, that is responsible for this behavior.
it is the unionized, organized public sector workers.
they are the ones that have built this old boys club.
replacing the party at the centre will not make any difference whatsoever.
in fact it will make things worse because the Liberals and even more the NDP are the mouthpieces of the unions.
by voting NDP you are essentailly endorsing this whole policy and it will get worse.
if seriously for you public sector jobs for immigrants is #1 priority then voting NDP or liberal is the WORST possible choice.
do not for one minute think either the liberals or the NDP care a damn for employing immigrants in the public sector just because they show up in the GTA wearing a pagri and dressed in a choga.
they are simply wolves in sheep's clothing.
the way forward is to break the monopoly and unfair hegemony of the unions and the public sector.
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