Did God create man or man create God ?
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Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 29-09-15 14:07:44
Wow Lot of discussion and still no firm answer...
I Strongly believe in GOD - otherwise why would we feel hidden energy around us ???
now which form he is in that is debatable ...
Truth is if there if life and death means god is exist - for most part we human try to exaggerate things or over do it but fact remain that there is secret force/ energy which runs the universe and i call it that GOD
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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)
How do you confirm this truth & fact about the secret energy known as God beyond faith & belief ?
Truth also is that life comes from re production and what has come to life , dies due to different reasons
...where does God come in this ?
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Fido.
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 29-09-15 14:56:01
APANA APANA BELIEVE HAI YAAR - i said i believe in GOD - that does not mean everyone should/will believe
app apane soch main sahi ho , main apani soch main sahi hoon -
wesse bhi apane failliur ke liye hum koyi to chahiye complain karane ke liye 
Lighter note: God main believe karane ka ek bada fayada hai...
Jub gussa ayee to Bhagawan ko kosh lo or maan ko sant karalo - bibi pe to gussa kar nahi sakate
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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
APANA APANA BELIEVE HAI YAAR - i said i believe in GOD - that does not mean everyone should/will believe
app apane soch main sahi ho , main apani soch main sahi hoon -
wesse bhi apane failliur ke liye hum koyi to chahiye complain karane ke liye
Lighter note: God main believe karane ka ek bada fayada hai...
Jub gussa ayee to Bhagawan ko kosh lo or maan ko sant karalo - bibi pe to gussa kar nahi sakate
ilkul sahi bola .
.. esp the last sentence 
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
still no firm answer...
I Strongly believe in GOD - otherwise why would we feel hidden energy around us ???
now which form he is in that is debatable ...
Truth is if there if life and death means god is exist - for most part we human try to exaggerate things or over do it but fact remain that there is secret force/ energy which runs the universe and i call it that GOD
Firm answer which you are missing is "there is NO God".
Hidden Energy ? you seems like feeling something which other do not ... I wonder if I should ask you to explain this energy.
I suggest do not struggle to prove existence of God.
Your only explanation should be its your Blind Faith and I will understand the blindness.
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Originally posted by san-hugo
Firm answer which you are missing is "there is NO God".
Hidden Energy ? you seems like feeling something which other do not ... I wonder if I should ask you to explain this energy.
I suggest do not struggle to prove existence of God.
Your only explanation should be its your Blind Faith and I will understand the blindness.
First and foremost, it should be understood that GOD has no obligation to show up to all, confirm his identity, take sides and prove his responsibility to anyone. He is over and above all this. It is indeed our desire to see and reach him and not the other way.
A cave man might not have the concept of GOD or the modern new generation may choose to ignore his presence and prefer to live in ignorance but it does not change HIS presence. I may choose to close my eyes assuming the world is dark but the reality is not the case. The caveman or the present generation may choose to live whatever way they feel comfortable but the point is what are they going to achieve or prove other than just live till they perish and continue the same life after life?
Even if there is no physical place called hell or heaven, the way we lead our life from birth till end itself can be considered hell or heaven. The journey we go through in life, the sorrow, miseries, sufferings, old age, losses or the joy, success and pleasures are nothing but the concept of hell and heaven. How does one can explain why some people are physically and mentally challenged, why some are poor, rich, weak, strong, ugly, beautiful and born the way they are other than the concept of the good or the bad deed they committed that too born to the same parents?
As mankind evolved from the stone age, his thinking has also evolved from mere survival to understand the meaning of life and death, how to escape this cycle of rebirth and the way to reach salvation. God has shown a way or rather two ways to realize him: Either through a complete devotion to HIM having given up all the worldly attachments or a complete dedication in the service of others which is actually considered superior to the first one. There are a few like Mother Teresa who followed this path. For the rest of us, it is either listen to those who achieved this success or call it is myth is entirely our choice. This is where we all fall under. We try to do our part to the best of our ability to help others and get our share of good or bad and repeat life the way we choose to live. We the so called the common man can’t go to any of these extremes, get agitated in the process, start questioning and challenging the unachievable with logic and science.
On the other hand, what about the concept of ghosts? If you believe there is no life after death, how do we explain the ghost? There are millions and millions of incidents to prove their existence. It is indeed easy to realize the bad as it does not need any effort but to realize GOD, one has to go to extremes.
Do not know whether we need to have faith at all for the visible range of the spectrum between red and violet frequencies, either side of which we may have to consider ourselves only blind.
Apart from ghosts, even from those who have lived, some have exhibited extra-ordinary mastery over their subjects, like Ramanujan in mathematics or a Shakespeare or a Kalidasa. Ramanujan was supposed to have said that his family deity provided him with flashes of knowledge to the many mathematical problems, he was trying to solve.
Heaven, hell, ghosts, Ravan with ten heads all may be beyond the scope of discussion. But there definitely seem to be a knowledge universe awaiting our access, whether we believe in God or not.
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