'Drowned' Brampton girl - the Indian connection
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Posted on: 12-07-05 10:12:26
Besides this Brampton story, there was also a story, If I am not mistaken, about an Indian father in two-bit town, Canada, who killed his daughter because she was hanging out with a "gora".
If I rememer the story right, the father acquiesced to taking her to her boyfriend and on the way in the car killed her.
Part of Indian culture?
I have heard of female infanticide. Is that part of Indian culture? Some Chinese friends tell me it happens there too.
Is prostitution part of Indian culture? Or is that universal?
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LSD.. well said
I do not know why Indian culture is dragged in this issue? Does the originator of idea wants to prove, that killing somebody is a western vice? I can give you numerous synonyms of "killing" in Hindi or Gujarati
>>Is the nice old gentleman In Moonsoon Wedding who sexually molests >>children part of Indian culture?
Do you think that child molestation never exists in India??? Just because people are not vocal about it, does not mean it does not exist
>>Is the girl in the same movie who has sex with another guy just before >>getting married to another also part of Indian culture?
We have Hindi equivalents of terms "fornication" and "adultery"
>>Is eating Hakka noodles part of Indian culture?
I do not understand your point here?? Does eating Chinese foods affects Indian culture?
>>Arranged marriage part of Indian culture
Arranged marriage has its pros and cons, as proved again and again. People tied in an unhappy marriage are more miserable than divorced people.
>>Going to the mandir part of Indian culture
Depends upon what one believes. I am a Hindu, but I do not agree with the idea of idol worship
>> Studying your ass off part of Indian culture
Does it mean, that people from other culture do not work hard? If I have studied history correctly, the entire industrial revolution has origniated in Europe. I do believe that Newton, Einstein or Stephen Hawking had to burn midnight oil to propose their theories.
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Orginally posted by meghal
>>Is eating Hakka noodles part of Indian culture?
I do not understand your point here?? Does eating Chinese foods affects Indian culture?
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Perhaps you or anyone else on this forum can educate me on this.
The people with Chinese looking features in Hakka Chinese restaurants talk in Hindi, some even Bengali I am told, say they are Indian, say they embrace Indian culture, say they studied in Indian schools and even claim that Hakka food is Indian. New arrivals also have Indian passports.
Same with a number of Indian restaurants, where not only tandoori food is served, but also Hakka food nowadays and they say “It is Indian only”. The people who serve you and the cooks who cook the Hakka food in these restaurants are not people with Chinese features.
Since one of the moderators said that food also comprises part of a culture, I am working along those lines.
By the way, I have asked several Indian people to name the 4-6 (I don’t know how many) Northeastern States, where it seems there are Indians with Chinese features, from the top of their heads and most have been unable to do so. How many on this forum can name them without resorting to any tools like the internet, Atlas, whatever? I have heard them a number of times but the only one that sticks in my mind is Nagaland
So Yoda,
The ball in thy court it be,
Perhaps you can enlighten me?
Yes, terrible attempt at mimicking Yoda’s style of speech.
So is Hakka Indian? Or is it not?
Please note I am not being sarcastic or anything along those lines, I earnestly wish to know how these Hindi-speaking, Indian passport holders, Chinese looking people fit into the scheme of Indian culture.
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Orginally posted by LSD
Perhaps you or anyone else on this forum can educate me on this.
The people with Chinese looking features in Hakka Chinese restaurants talk in Hindi, some even Bengali I am told, say they are Indian, say they embrace Indian culture, say they studied in Indian schools and even claim that Hakka food is Indian. New arrivals also have Indian passports.
Yes. THose people are originally from China whose forefathers have settled in Calcutta, and were in business of leather. So you are right. They have a Chinese ancestry. (This is analogus to 3rd of 4th generation of people of Indian origin living in Canada) That is what I have read in a magazine few years before
There was a fellow working with me, who was Chinese but had spent his childhood in Calcutta.
Regarding the word "Hakka", perhaps a Chinese person can enlighten you.
Hey, but aren't we talking about drowned Brampton Girl!!!!!!!!!
Meghal
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
There’s been a story in the news for the past 2 days about a 3 year old Brampton girl who died earlier in the week. The family said that she had ‘drowned in an inflatable backyard pool’, while a neighbour who performed CPR said that the child was dry. An investigation that is underway indicates that the child’s back was broken and the case is now with homicide.
Indications are that the family is ‘desi’.
We have a few people on this board that get on their high horses in regards to ‘Indian culture’. Wondering if these sorts of occurences are also a part of that 'culture'.
The story from today’s Toronto Star follows:
BOB MITCHELL
STAFF REPORTER
Peel homicide officers are now probing the death of a 3-year-old Brampton girl, a tragedy initially reported as an accidental drowning in a backyard pool.
Police won't say how the young girl died, but sources have told the Toronto Star that the child's back was broken.
Family members were questioned extensively over the past two days about the death in a home on Rockrose Dr. in the Bramalea Rd.-Bovaird Dr. area.
Sources said homicide detectives became involved yesterday afternoon following an autopsy at the Sick Kids hospital. Results haven't been released.
Yesterday, yellow police tape cordoned off the semi-detached home for the second consecutive day and a police officer guarded the residence. There were no signs of any family members.
Forensic investigators spent much of Tuesday inside the home. Peel police officers questioned neighbours yesterday and also spent time inside.
Emergency personnel rushed to the home Tuesday morning after receiving a 911 call indicating that a child had drowned in a backyard inflatable pool.
Police said a relative living in the residence brought the unconscious child to a neighbour's house where the 911 call was made just before 9:40 a.m. The girl was rushed to Peel Memorial Hospital, but she couldn't be resuscitated.
The neighbour told reporters that the relative never mentioned anything about the child drowning. The neighbour added the girl was "totally dry."
Although neighbours said the young girl had a twin brother, police said the boy was a cousin. Another older child also lives in the home. Police said the dead girl's father lives in India.
I'm not a big fan of Indian 'culture' myself. I don't know of any other 'culture' where female fetus is killed or where women are burnt alive just because their fathers aren't rich enough to satisfy the greed of their inlaws or where old parents are thrown out of the house just because they weren't getting along with their daughter in law or where a woman decides to stay with her abusive husband for the rest of her life and take it all just because the word 'divorce' is a taboo.
And the list is endless.......
But whats your point in regards to this crime?
~M
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Orginally posted by meghal
I do not know why Indian culture is dragged in this issue?
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Orginally posted by manjeet444
But whats your point in regards to this crime?
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I believe Crenshaw was making a point. See his second post on this thread.
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Orginally posted by Crenshaw
I don't believe it is a part of any culture. However, when a child in a Canadian family died due to the mother's negligence, one member thought that was representative of 'such people and such society'. Many of you appeared to agree, or perhaps if you disagreed you didn't voice your opinion with the speed with which you have responded to this post.
http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=5224&page=1#27011
Therefore the question, is this part of 'Indian culture'?
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