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macman   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-07-05 12:59:29

NYTimes Article by Suketu Mehta

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/opinion/12mehta.html (requires subscription)

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A Passage From India - New York Times

July 12, 2005
A Passage From India
By SUKETU MEHTA
ACCORDING to a confidential memorandum, I.B.M. is cutting 13,000 jobs in the
United States and in Europe and creating 14,000 jobs in India. From 2000 to
2015, an estimated three million American jobs will have been outsourced; one in
10 technology jobs will leave these shores by the end of this year. Stories like
these have aroused a primal fear in the Western public: that they might soon
need to line up outside the Indian Embassy for work visas and their children
will have to learn Hindi.
Just as my parents had to line up outside the American consulate in Bombay, and
my sisters and I had to learn English. My father came to America in 1977 not for
its political freedoms or its way of life, but for the hope of a better economic
future for his children. My grandfathers on both sides left rural Gujarat in
northwestern India to find work: one to Calcutta, which was even more remote in
those days than New York is from Bombay now; and the other to Nairobi. Mobility,
we have always known, is survival. Now I face the possibility that my children,
when they grow up, will find their jobs outsourced to the very country their
grandfather left to pursue economic opportunity.
The outsourcing debate seems to have mutated into a contest between the country
of my birth and the country of my nationality. Of course I feel a loyalty to
America: it gave my parents a new life and my sons were born here. I have a
vested interest in seeing America prosper. But I am here because the country of
my ancestors didn't understand the changing world; it couldn't change its
technology and its philosophy and its notions of social mobility fast enough to
fight off the European colonists, who won not so much with the might of advanced
weaponry as with the clear logical philosophy of the Enlightenment. Their
systems of thinking conquered our own. So, since independence, Indians have had
to learn; we have had to slog for long hours in the classroom while the children
of other countries went out to play.
When I moved to Queens, in New York City, at the age of 14, I found myself, for
the first time in my life, considered good at math. In Bombay, math was my worst
subject, and I regularly found my place near the bottom of the class rankings in
that rigorous subject. But in my American school, so low were their standards
that I was - to my parents' disbelief - near the top of the class. It was the
same in English and, unexpectedly, in American history, for my school in Bombay
included a detailed study of the American Revolution. My American school
curriculum had, of course, almost nothing on the subcontinent's freedom
struggle. I was mercilessly bullied during the 1979-80 hostage crisis, because
my classmates couldn't tell the difference between Iran and India. If I were now
to move with my family to India, my children - who go to one of the best private
schools in New York - would have to take remedial math and science courses to
get into a good school in Bombay.
Of course, India's no wonderland. It might soon have the world's biggest middle
class, but it also has the world's largest underclass. A quarter of its one
billion people live below the poverty line, 40 percent are illiterate, and the
child malnutrition rate exceeds that of sub-Saharan Africa. There's a huge
difference between the backwater state of Bihar and the boomtown of Bangalore.
Those Indians who went to the United States, though, have done remarkably well:
Indians make up one of the richest ethnic groups in this country. During the
technology boom of the late 1990's, Indians were responsible for 10 percent of
all the start-ups in Silicon Valley. And in this year's national spelling bee,
the top four contestants were of South Asian origin.
There is a perverse hypocrisy about the whole jobs debate, especially in Europe.
The colonial powers invaded countries like India and China, pillaged them of
their treasures and commodities and made sure their industries weren't allowed
to develop, so they would stay impoverished and unable to compete. Then the
imperialists complained when the destitute people of the former colonies came to
their shores to clean their toilets and dig their sewers; they complained when
later generations came to earn high wages as doctors and engineers; and now
they're complaining when their jobs are being lost to children of the empire who
are working harder than they are. My grandfather was once confronted by an
elderly Englishman in a London park who asked, \\\"Why are you here?\\\" My
grandfather responded, \\\"We are the creditors.\\\" We are here because you were
there.
The rich countries can't have it both ways. They can't provide huge subsidies
for their agricultural conglomerates and complain when Indians who can't make a
living on their farms then go to the cities and study computers and take away
their jobs. Why are Indians willing to write code for a tenth of what Americans
make for the same work? It's not by choice; it's because they're still
struggling to stand on their feet after 200 years of colonial rule. The day will
soon come when Indian companies will find that it's cheaper to hire computer
programmers in Sri Lanka, and then it's there that the Indian jobs will go.
Of course, it's heart-wrenching to see American programmers - many of whom are
of Indian origin - lose their jobs and have to worry about how they'll pay the
mortgage. But they are ill served by politicians who promise to bring their jobs
back by the facile tactic of banning them from leaving. This strategy will
ensure only that our schools stay terrible; it'll be an entire country run like
the dairy industry, feasible only because of price controls and subsidies.
But we have a resource of incalculable worth right here to help us compete: the
immigrants who've been given a new life in America. There are many more Indians
in the United States than there are Americans in India. Indian-Americans will
help America understand India, trade with it to our mutual benefit. Just as
Arab-Americans can help us fight Al Qaeda, Indian-Americans can help us deal
with the emerging economic superpower that is India. This is the return of the
gift of citizenship.
And just in case, I'm making sure my children learn Hindi.
Suketu Mehta is author of "Maximum City: Bombay Lost and Found."



ptm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-07-05 14:29:20

wonderful article.
congratulations Mr. Mehta.

ptm



rajand   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-05 01:07:49

Articles like this reinforce my thinking of wanting to go back to India.

Rgds.

Rajan.


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alexm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-05 07:50:43

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Orginally posted by rajand

Articles like this reinforce my thinking of wanting to go back to India.

Rgds.

Rajan.



I don't think it is as simple as that...the daily problems associated with the lack of infrastructure will give you second thoughts once you are back here. Due to the recent monsoons I have read of so many buildings have their basement car parks flooded causing huge damage to cars.

And the infrastructure in the bigger Indian cities will never be able to keep pace with the rate at which the city is expanding. Living here I can give you so many examples of the problems associated with this unplanned expansion.


And this boom that India is experiencing will plateau after some time, possibly as little as 5 years. Wages simply cannot increase 15-20% (on average) year upon year. Soon we will be faced with the prospect of jobs going to even cheaper destinations like China, Vietnam etc.

I guess this question of where to live is a lot more complicated :)



ptm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-05 10:02:36

offcourse water and power problems will remain an issue in india. but there is no doubt after opening of economy the country is maiking an allround progress. presently economy is growing at 7-8 % comparing that of canada which is hovering around 2-3%. given the excellent potential in real estate sector and service sector it is expected to maintain a consistent growth rate.
recently there is some serious progress in the field of river linking which will further boost up agriculture sector which is significant part of the economy . considering all these things are looking quite promising.



ptm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-05 10:03:21

offcourse water and power problems will remain an issue in india. but there is no doubt after opening of economy the country is maiking an allround progress. presently economy is growing at 7-8 % comparing that of canada which is hovering around 2-3%. given the excellent potential in real estate sector and service sector it is expected to maintain a consistent growth rate.
recently there is some serious progress in the field of river linking which will further boost up agriculture sector which is significant part of the economy . considering all these things are looking quite promising.



crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-05 10:23:37

Quote:
Orginally posted by ptm

presently economy is growing at 7-8 % comparing that of canada which is hovering around 2-3%.



Canada’s growth of 2 – 3% is on a base of more than $1 trillion in GDP.

India’s growth of 7 – 8% is on a base of approx $600 billion.

Most importantly, Canada’s growth is being distributed amongst 30 million people while India’s is being distributed among 1 billion.

While its easy to get gung-ho about India’s progress – which is, no doubt, creditable – delusions of grandeur are a little premature.



Contributors: ptm(4) mercury6(3) Dips(2) alexm(2) crenshaw(1) Explorer(1) macman(1) rajand(1)



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