Posted on: 04-12-05 02:02:28
Not a good idea.. ! Like John Adams said.. vote blocks are an anathema to real democracy.. ! but then Canada today hardly represents real democracy.. Democracy can not survive this multi-cultural non-sense..
Vote banks and special interests will skew the process in favour of groups and against individual interest of each Canadian. Highly skilled immigrants are having problems due to soft demand. If you really need skills, organizations will find way to make certification process faster.. but fact is there is no real need for thousands of new engineers , CPAs , dentists etc. Canada CAN NOT absorb them without it dampening earning of professionals already in the field..! (otherwise you would see their wages going thro' roof) So professional organization do what they are designed to do.. protect the interest of its members by putting impendiments and act as door-keeper.. It's self-correction and market answer to Govt.'s ill advised immigration policies..!
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Orginally posted by jake3d
I think you have just described the thinking of most Canadians.
Ditto! I'd vote liberal for the same reasons. I don't see the Tories as a better alternative in any aspect. I think Harper's got his work cut out convincing immigrants he's the guy....he still have a few weeks to convince me though.
At this point I'm leaning towards liberals, however let's see what Harper has to say in the coming days.
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Orginally posted by zCool
Not a good idea.. ! Like John Adams said.. vote blocks are an anathema to real democracy.. ! but then Canada today hardly represents real democracy.. Democracy can not survive this multi-cultural non-sense..
Vote banks and special interests will skew the process in favour of groups and against individual interest of each Canadian. Highly skilled immigrants are having problems due to soft demand. If you really need skills, organizations will find way to make certification process faster.. but fact is there is no real need for thousands of new engineers , CPAs , dentists etc. Canada CAN NOT absorb them without it dampening earning of professionals already in the field..! (otherwise you would see their wages going thro' roof) So professional organization do what they are designed to do.. protect the interest of its members by putting impendiments and act as door-keeper.. It's self-correction and market answer to Govt.'s ill advised immigration policies..!
I do not know who john Adams was and what he said but Lincoln said that democracy is for the people,by the people and of the people. In context of Canada, it for the White guys and certainly NOT for immigrants. The best way to voice your opinion on functioning of demcracy is by CHANGING the government. I do not see any harm or \"Vote Blocks\" in this kind of voting. Further in all the countries, professionals try to restrict entry/ limit members to maintain standards but in FAIR and TRANSPARENT way. In Canada they simply refuse to recognize experience gained baroad while for 12 years these ****** liberals kept inviting immigrants. Is anatomy of Canadians different from others? Are accounting principles different in Canada from those prevailing in the rest of the world?. What kind of \"door- keepres\" are these professional organizations? Zcool says that there is \"soft demand\" for professionals. Is it? This dude perhaps has never waited for 4 hours at doctor's clinic otherwise he would have better idea about the shortage of professionals or may be he is one lucky guy who knows how to jump the queue.
Well I do see Liberal sympaizers airing their views. My question is that what exactly liberlas have done to recognize our QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE? To CDs, this recognition is vital for getting job. Please do not support these mainstream parties and vote for ANYBODY other than three rouge parties. Let us serve and protect our own interest.
I wonder why this entire discussion is centred only on the plight of professional immigrants? Even though I tend to be one of them, I believe that once you are settled in Canada, there are numerous other issues to be taken care of
(1) I wonder if Tories or NDP could do any better job at abosrbing foreign trained professionals? It is more about changing people biases rather than blaming Liberals for any hurdles to immigrants.
I am now a professional engineer, and I can see what is the reason such bias exists. Even though one may be very technically proficient, you should be equally adapt in communication skills. The way people talk, the language, is different is what I have been using in India. So it takes time before you can cope up or understand, what the other person is trying to say. This is just an example. I do not fully agree with other people biases, but this is one of the fact.
(2) From my viewpoint, the major issue is tax. I believe that increasing taxes is the easiest way for any government to make money, as people do not seem to oppose any increase in tax. We first had GST, then McGuinty started taxing us for health insurance. NOw talks are on the way to tax motorist to stop the TTC fare increase. I do not think any part would be willing to decrease the taxes. Even though Tories are promising to cut GST to 5%, this is just a promise. And we know how good are the politicians at keeping their promises
I hate paying that 15% chunk on every damn thing I buy, in addition to the tax cut I see in my paycheque. It hardly feels that I am earning anything or I have disposable income or money to save.
(3) If Tories are in power, there will be a difference in Canada-US relationship. Stephen Harper seems to be more leaned towards right-winged policies of Bush. And I do not support this stance
(4) Inflation - Within past few years, the prices of petrol has increased on average 20-3- cents. The price of electricity and water has increased by big amounts. My condo fees are increasing every year. This is all, after Canada has a large reserve of natural gas and water.
There are other issues such as public transport, healthcare, education that affects other citizens and immigrants.
I believe there is much more in Canada than just moaning about your mistake in immigrating to Canada. I have passed through the same phase, and I am sympathetic with other immigrants who pass through same hardship. I had made a decision of going back to India, had I not made it in Canada. I had not immigrated to Canada to do a labour job or change my field of expertise. And I did not - I sticked to my stance.
Just my thoughts though...............
Although I feel liberals are our best bet when it comes to balancing the books at the end of the year and also being a little more immigrant friendly than the other parties.......I strongly feel that tories be given a chance.
I am going to vote for the candidate who has done a better job in my electorate rather than going for the party. I think if I vote for the right candidate than it should not matter what party he/she belongs to.
Dont vote for the green party and waste your vote.
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Odd as it may seem, Stephen Harper seems to have got a quick start on this elongated federal election campaign by promising to immediately cut the GST from its present 7% to 6% if elected to govern.
On the surface, this seems a modest proposal but it's far more credible than Paul Martin's promise to cut personal income taxes if re-elected.
Harper says that, if elected, he'd cut the GST to 5% before his mandate ran out. That's encouraging, considering how the damn GST is detested by everyone except those in government who relish any way the taxpayer can be gouged.
It's to the credit of voters that they tend to believe Harper on this, but see Martin's income tax promise as more horsefeathers, like the $10 billion-plus in bribes he promised just before his government fell.
Remember it was Martin in 1990, when he was in opposition, who called the GST \"an incredibly stupid, inept tax\" that he'd scrap if elected.
Maybe, just maybe, the people of Canada are catching on that Martin's Liberals are no better than Chretien's Liberals, just smoother and eager to do anything to keep power.
Corruption and deceit are so ingrained in the Liberal psyche that not only can you not believe a word they say, but even if they want to be honest they can't be.
As a party, they are scorpions vowing not to sting the frog they carry but can't help being what they are.
This isn't to suggest that the other political parties exude virtue and wear halos. They don't, not even Harper, though he's not duplicitous or a double-dealer.
A lot of Canadians intend to vote Conservative in the Jan. 23 election -- not because they are enthused by that party or its leader, but because they think (hope) it is more honest. Me too.
So while Harper's proposal to reduce the GST by a couple of points is hardly dazzling, it's getting accolades across Canada.
Here's another suggestion that would not only be popular, but would increase tax revenue without punishing anyone. Sound interesting? Read on.
By reducing the capital gains tax -- and I'm thinking of those who invest in the stock market -- the net effect would be that it would get more tax revenue, because investors would be encouraged to sell profitable stocks and reinvest in other stocks they hope will gain.
Since 2002, 50% of any capital gain gets taxed (before that, 75% of any gain was taxed). This resulted in individuals who made a big gain on a stock being reluctant to sell because they'd lose their gain in taxes.
It's a proven fact that whenever the U.S. has lowered its capital gains tax it has resulted in more money moving around, more buying and selling, and more capital gains tax revenue coming in.
Prior to around 1970, Canada had no tax on capital gains. Today, the lib-left opposes capital gains tax relief on grounds that the rich benefit the most.
True, but it helps anyone who invests -- which some experts say now includes up to 70% of the public.
Investing is a middle-class phenomenon.
If Harper (or Martin) vowed to lower the capital gains tax to, say, 15%, it would spur activity on the stock market, Canadians would have more disposable income, tax revenues would rise, the economy would get a welcome boost.
Of course the very rich would benefit -- but they always benefit. So what? The average investor would also benefit.
Sadly, no politician has the guts to advocate cutting (or eliminating) the capital gains tax. Pity, because there are no losers in this scenario -- only winners.
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So Canada has once again been plunged into elections just a year and a half later. Encore une fois, all parties concerned shall submit Canada to mud-slinging and vociferous claims of misconduct of the other.
Just before the no-confidence vote and predictable collapse of the minority government, the Grits decided to strike deals at warp speed with every possible group, promising $4.5 billion for the military, $2 billion for victims of abuse at residential schools, another stupendous sum for the aboriginals, more money for health care, third world assistance, gun control, softwood lumber industry, tax cuts totaling $30 billion, increasing dividend tax credit (thereby reducing taxes), appeasing Bay Street by its non-committal policy on income trusts, $920 million for the settlement of the immigrants; you name it, they’ve done it. The government has also promised a further inquiry into the Air India bombing case, albeit on a limited mandate. Do these Yuletide and festive presents smack of an ulterior motive? Perhaps a last minute scrambling for votes? You bet!
All these ideas are not bad; as a matter of fact, they are good. However, one should not be carried away with all these gifts. It is just plain shameless effrontery, bribing the voters with their own money!
Canadians should actually stop and ponder if the Liberals have really delivered on their promises. Sure, the stock markets are up, the loonie in certain circles is known as sweet CAN D (pronounced candy) and the unemployment rate is at the lowest in decades. However, is our health care system better or worse? Is our judicial system really fair? Is it more focused on the victims or the accused? Did the Liberals’ 2 billion dollar gun registry reduce urban street crime? Is Canada’s military stronger or weaker? Can we really ‘stand on guard for thee’ as the National Anthem goes? Have conditions on reserves ameliorated? Is Canada’s immigration system efficiently run and most importantly, is it secure?
However, all these considerations pale in comparison when we set our sights on the moral fibre of the Liberals. Can we entrust them with our tax dollars? What with adscam , the city hall hiring and personal relationships scandals and the Greg Sorbara ordeal, what can be said about their ethical standards?
Already, Prime Minister Martin is hinting that, due to the opposition’s obsession with defeating the minority government, the $30 million tax cuts promised by finance minister Ralph Goodale might be jeopardized. How many more promises will he renege on, if re-elected?
After all these deliberations and then some more, we then consider, whom should we vote for? Harper, Layton, Duceppe? Or better a known devil than an unknown one?
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