Posted on: 29-12-03 20:28:52
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Orginally posted by Ateet Agarwal
Hi BlueLobster,
Thanks for your regular update and guidance to all. I wish to educate myself about some conceptions about job scene in Canada thru' this thread.
What is the job scene for Canadian MBA graduates (Indians)? Iam applying for Fall 2004. The general feedback given to me is that the jobs are heavily concentrated on the east (Toronto) and not on West (Vancouver). UBC is among my top choices but this notion about NO JOBS bothers me. Does NO JOBS mean that there are NO (expected) jobs or NO JOBS AT ALL!
As an international student/foreigner I accept that I may not get the best job and salary of my choice right at the start. But NO JOBS makes me feel insecure. Please update me on my wrong/incomplete information.
Thanks in advance.
Ateet
My stats: IIT-D graduate, 3 yrs IT work exp, US project, GMAT:710, AWA:6, TOEFL:300. Applied to Rotman, UBC, Alberta, York, McGill, (working on) Ivey.
Ateet,
NO JOBS is about as gross a misconception as can be. There are jobs in all provinces, including B.C. However Ontario (and mainly Toronto, Ottawa and Waterloo) has the most concentration of Tech companies and is also most densely populated. So the nuimber of tech or IT jobs here may be significantly higher than say Vancouver.
That said, there's many jobs in Vancouver too. You might not see that many of them advertised on websites like Workopolis, but there are many companies looking for talent, you just have to have a good network to find them. As a rule of thumb, most employers will look for Canadian experience, but as we've discussed in other threads, there are ways to work around this. Also your U.S. experience will help a great deal if you use it correctly (There's a member Ani who got a very good SAP job in a week in Montreal after moving here from the U.S., he has posted his experiences nicely in a thread.)
The IT market is definately on the rebound; slowly but surely. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but 2004 is looking quite promising from where we are right now.
If you're studying here first, you're making a really good move. You will be much better equipped in your job search when you get around to it as compared to people who immigrate and start looking for work right away. One suggestion is start making a network of connection as soon as you're here, talk with people, make contacts in your field and stay in touch with these people. The majority of jobs here are given via connections like these, and not through job web-sites.
I honestly think you'll do quite well with your credentials.
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I might add here that I'm not suggesting the Canadian market is a piece of cake or that there are jobs abound for the picking. For (almost) all new immigrants, there is definately a struggle period involved and there are times when your frustration gets the better of you. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. And I believe if you start as a student, you'll cross the tunnel much faster 
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Hi BlueLobster,
Thanks a lot for your resourceful and encouraging reply. This is the first time that I have received such a balanced feedback. I had expected the same but was not getting much help.
I fully realise the importance of networking and contacts in MBA, especially when one is a foreign land. This was one of the important factors in favor of choosing Canada for my MBA, thanks to the Asian community. I hope that the tech market revives by the time I graduate, though Iam ready for any hardships that come onway. I am prepared to take that calculated risk. I plan to apply for my PR while I complete my MBA there. Right now not very well aware of PR requirements/legalities but Iam sure there are ppl around who can help. But before that I have to become a student as I wait for the results.
Thanks again for your words.
A Happy new year to all the members of this wonderful group
Regards,
Ateet
Thank you all very much for the overwhelming response to my query! The fact is that most of us are aware of the initial struggle that one is likely to face. However, what I do not understand is that if the jobs are not really aplenty, then why is Canada so desparately seeking skilled worker at all? Isn't there is a built-in contardiction in the entire situation? The 10-page NOC list gives an impression that Canada needs people across the board. But when you reach there, you are faced with a situation similar to that of a fresh graduate who has little clue where his career would end up !!!
Jobs are plenty but to secure one the approach should be "Right".
Here "Right" means Canadian approach.
Once the new immigrants switch to Canadian way of doing things (intentionally or unintentionally) they usually secure jobs and also enjoy life.
I am quoting below a view, which basically says that maybe our approach for finding the right job is not correct. (The jobs probably exist, perhaps we do not know how to get them!) Senior Desis, please share your experiences and guide us!
Thanks
Vishal
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Orginally posted by yogeshshah
When you are given a VISA/PR. CHC ask you bring funds to support your self for first six months. What is expected from you is \\\"DO not go to facotries or for the jobs not related to your field and start earning\\\" For first six month use the money you have brought and get your self going. There are many programs going on FUNDED by HRDC (From the tax payers money) for new immegrants(New Canadians).
Did you know all about this programs? If you really wants to help a new Indian Canadian. DO NOT SHOW them jobs in factories. TAKE them to HRDC and other HRDC funded programs.
IF you take them to factories, They will be their for life. You have not helped them but made their life worst. I have seen people on student VISA and other seniors (Who were not accepted at jobs) being hired at $5 cash. Will this help new canadians in any way? probably not.
If I share my experience, I have taken trip to HRDC for first month every day 8 to 5. I got a job in the field of my experties in 40 days. Furthermore, Got a government job in 2 years (Before being Citizen of Canada). SO its all crap saying you need to be Canadian Citizen before you are being accpted in government jobs.
My wife joined HRDC funded program call NEW CANADIAN PROGRAM for three month. Its only for foreign trained professional and ginve an opportunity to work for free in your profession for 4 weeks. If employer likes you, They hire you. The result is \\\" SHE WORKS in TEACHING JOB FOR ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITY IN CANADA\\\" None of us have gone to any university or taken any courses.
If you call you self professional, you will always have to learn and keep your self updated. This is true in any part of the world. India, Australia, Canada or prosporos USA.
Learn to enjoy your life without blaming any one else. IF you have an experience and willing to work, Opportunities are endless... DO not stuck to Greater Toronto and compit with new immigrants all the time. You have left your DES, so leave GTA.
GOOD LUCK!
I echo the point of view of Vishal Grover,
don't go for quick money, and work in a planned manner.
just remember, learn the approach (of doing things) of the country, and learn to integrate with people irespective of their race , origin and colour.
