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ugot_mail   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 70
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-01-04 11:58:26

Dear Hindustani.
I will let you know in 10 years if i am ready to return home.



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-01-04 12:03:06

Quote:
Orginally posted by Murthy

Please remeber there are three types of people...

Complaining...... which you find quite often on this website
explaining....... which you find now and then
Inspiring...... which i have to see yet on this website




Murthy,
Can I suggest to you that you look a bit harder? You may see all three types of people on this site. You may be most surprised to find that all three of them are the same person many a time :)

p.s: I'm not talking about me...however, like anybody else I have all three personalities embedded in me too.


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spyder   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 6
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-01-04 14:37:12

If I didnt know any better, you already have canadian citizenship. So, you have multiple options
1. like you said, move yourself lock stock and barrel to India
2. take a long break (may be six months) and travel to India and see if it is all you thought it is.. If so, then move shop and be happy.

To play the devil's advocate, if you are homesick even after a decade (been there done that) then may be your convictions are right and that your instincts are telling you the right thing.

On the other hand, if you are feeling this way because you are suffering from depression, then you trying to attain nirvana wont work in any part of the world. Your best bet in that case, would be to get all the help you can get (anything from more socializing to CBT/ADs)

Short term, you can take up to more hobbies and inculcate different kind of things into your kids along with taking extensive vacation back home. Long term... it is upto you (If you are a dual citizen coming back to Canada is no big deal anyway..)



Maharaj   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 1721
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-01-04 16:11:43

You are talking of going back to India ... Good for you.

But who says that life back home is not Mechanical. Atleast in my Mumbai it is, to certain extent. Nobody has time for Anybody. You go there for 4 weeks on vacation ... thinking ... Aish karenge. But in two days, you come to reality that everybody has a job to do. Everybody is fighting. Nobody has time for you. Everybody is still leaving home at 8.00am and comes back at 9.00pm ... Ohhhh Man its tough. (Now looking back, train sounds Fun ... but not at all if it is daily routine).


After Coming here in Canada and I look at my Migration differently. And I always say this whenever people starts saying that India was better ...

I have TWO things to say to them ...


First -
To me India is not better, but The Best. I am still attached to it, & will always. Because it is my HOME LAND. Whatever I have done, I have done it there. People recognises me, remembers me. No wonder I miss them. But more than any person, I miss the PLACE most. It is obivious to Love HOME LAND. I have been Born and brought up in Bombay, there is no place like Bombay in this world for me. Nothing can come close to it. I know every corner (don't take it literally) of Bombay, I know how to come out of it in problem. I know where to go. Help was just round the corner. Everything was so close. I was never alone in Bombay. And That's where I get my Inner Happiness (Even though life is Mechanical in Bombay).

But its not same here. It will never be,... unless you born here again. And I am sure, my Daughter's feeling for Toronto will be no different than my feeling for Bombay. Even if she has to stay InDoor in winter. Even if she can't do what I did in my Childhood. Defination of Fun is different for us. Place of so called Inner Happiness is different for us.


Second & Important -
I have seen people coming to Bombay for better living, better oppertunities, better rewards ... and lots of dreams (No different than people here). They face same problems ... They got to work hard, they have to start life from scratch, they get rejected/pushed, they don't get job that easily, they are under paid, they feel cheated. People make them suffer, People take undue advantage ... and even this list is no Different. They feel same ke Apna Gaon Sahi Tha.

That means, whenever you leave HOME LAND ... you are bound to find it difficult. Doesn't mater Home Country or Foreign Country. Life can never be same or even comparable.


So Guys ... if you think, India is the Best for you. Go Ahead, All the Best. Let me know if I can be of any help in that. But please, Canada ko Gaali mat do. Agreed India is Rising, Business is Boooming ... but to make India look Taller, don't Cut Canada. I am representing Canada. I am paying my tax here, I am working here to make this my NEW HOME LAND. Atleast I need to give my daughter her HOME LAND in better shape.


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hindustani   
Member since: Jan 03
Posts: 28
Location: Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-01-04 11:41:01

Thanks all of you for showing your deep love and respect for the country in which you live just for couple of years.Just to let you know my kids are right now in kindergartens and I am not more than 30 years old.And I spent most of the time with them and do lots of activities because I am a housewife.

I am agree with you that this country teach us hardwork, become independent ,respect, manners etc..But you know what this gora people consider you in their mind nothing else but "emna pagni jutti".

You think canadian gora people like winter, not at all! But they have to live with it because they don't have any other choice.If they like in here why most of the gora people are psycic and under depression?And one more thing they give us a lessons about hard work but you must know they are very smart people and know very well how to make money doing nothing but sitting home.Most people they are on disability and welfare in this country.
And somebody said our people always complaining on this website. Why people are complaining because they are not happy with their life in Canada?

People for those money comes first and peace of mind,relations,lifestyle comes after they will never leave this country.And people who belive in me,my wife and kids, this country is ok for them to live in.

And to let you know there are people who are eager to come to canada and on the other side there are many well settled people in India who can get the visa for canada but they don't want to come here.

Any way I have many social problems going on in my life right now and all my family,friends and relatives are in backhome so I am gone a at least try if I can find some business backhome. Otherwise if not then we can always come back ,canada's doors are always open for skilled labours.

I am a true canadian but proud Indian.



mercury6   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 2025
Location: State of Denial

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-01-04 11:51:43

I think the main reason for not finding inner happiness is that this is just not your place, culture or whatever you can call it. Your kids (2nd genartion) will have a much happier life (if not better). Most of your memories of family, friends is from India where you grew up. Cultural experiences are so ingrained in our minds that older you are , more difficult it is to give up or change. I went to india after 7 years this July and i remember the next morning after arriving, I just got up early and there was the radio playing my favourite songs. I took a bath and went down to the corner shop to get something to eat and we had a little chat....then there was noise and people all around (along with the dirt and dust)....It just felt like home..even though I hate 90% of the things there it still felt good. I could just walk down the street and feel like a king (not lieterally of course). No one could tell me anything or look down on me or tell me to go back to my own country.

Canadians are happy here. they love the winter, they have friends (if not family) and they go around....its just their own place.

Culture Kills us here, even if you like it, because you cannot mix well with the local populace. Thats why i see a lot of us trying to meet each other and keep up social contact. without it we would be nothing.

0.02 c


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suryau   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 67
Location: Etobicoke

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-01-04 12:12:17

"Thanks all of you for showing your deep love and respect for the country in which you live just for couple of years"

this sound lil sarcastic to me. if it is (if not, ignore rest of my post), india is our birth-country and canada is our adopted country. we choose canada by choice where as we are associated with india by our parent's choice. both countries has their own importance in our life.

you cant blame us about talking fondly of our adopted country because it is the one which is giving us bread. culture-shock is inevitable when coming from a society like india's. your success/satisfaction depends on how well you can adjust in this new home.

kuch pane ke liye kuch khona padta hai. we came here to earn money. (atleast in my case) for that i adjusted a lot, but i did it all by choice. nobody forced me to do that. being lived in a different culture till now, i know another kind of culture too. with my wisdom, i can pick best of both worlds. so, for few things i am very indian, where as for other things i am a canadian. how much i try i cant deny my indianness or canadian influence. i have no complaints also!

talking fondly of this country does not mean there is no love for india. each has its own place.

i guess true problem starts when you have kids here. they are exposed to canadian culture. so, what they do is very much different from what you did when you were at their age. when you try to impose indian standards of living (which is new to them) on them.. then starts trouble.


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