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cdn_dude   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 11:53:21

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Originally posted by yellowknife

The salaries for software jobs are 60% more than in Canada? really?
what sort of Canadian salary were you looking at?



Well, I think he meant that the US pay is significantly higher as compared to what you get (normally) in Canada. I do not know the exact percentage, but definitely higher enough to make someone in Canada move to the United States.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 12:48:29

I moved from Canada to USa and in general the USa is cheaper then Canada . Also i is a much better country a far as infrastructure, career choices and advancements are considered.


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 13:01:36

Hi, don’t know the work environment in US or Canada but has traveled extensively in US and I must say US is far better in infrastructure than Canada. A small example from a mother's point of view, the world famous Eaton center doesn't have a play area, the ramps for strollers are on left so if you are shopping on right and want to come to another floor, has to come to left for ramp and then move again to right....why there are no ramps on both sides? Can be silly for some but it was cumbersome if you hold a twin stroller! US airports, malls, never had any such problems.

Jona



apsingla   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 13:12:24

Us is much better than Canada.
Salaries,
cheaper but better quality clothes and other products.
better cell phone deals,
Image of an indian is much better in USA than Canada (personal experience)

and much more.



yellowknife   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 15:53:34

Oh yes, this is a discussion that has happened on this board many times.
I spent 13 years in the US and 3 in Canada now so far.
Undoubtely, the US is a 'cheaper' place in terms of groceries, cell phone plans etc. that someone has mentioned. And I think that will always be the case.
However, I don't agree that the overall infrastructure is better in the US. I feel that if anything, the infrastructure for most things in Canada is far better. (I don't know about specific children related things that jonav mentioned...)

There are a lot of positives in Canada and I believe in most instances, it is true that someone in the software industry or even other professions will be able to save more money in the US, mainly because things may cost less and also because salaries will be higher.
However, I believe that unless the salaries are significantly higher when compared to Canada, one needs to really think of the tradeoffs before deciding that the US is better in 'every' respect.

And as I have mentioned in a post a while back, the fundamental immigration model that the US and Canada follow are quite different. In Canada's case thousands of people(at least desis) are immigrating here every year without first having jobs and then are looking for jobs once they land here.

Whether their qualifications are upto snuff or not is a whole different issue, but they struggle in Canada.

In the US most people(desis) that are going there are going there with a job.
It does not take a genius to figure out which people end up being happier most of the time.




cdn_dude   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-09-07 16:06:20

Quote:
Originally posted by yellowknife

However, I don't agree that the overall infrastructure is better in the US. I feel that if anything, the infrastructure for most things in Canada is far better. (I don't know about specific children related things that jonav mentioned...)




Yellowknife,

Most of the people have told what things are better in their opinion, in US while defending their opinion. You seem to disagree. So, can you please let us know what things you think are better in Canada than US - as far as the infrastructure/other things are concerned?

Because I agree with rest of the crowd but would like to know if I am missing anything..



yellowknife   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-07 09:38:53

No, I do agree that many things in the US are better. Like I said, you can save more in the US, you have a broader range of goods to choose from in the US.
But what I was trying to point out that Canada does have some significant advantages as well, and if 2 people(spouse) have good jobs in a city like Toronto, I think life is actually better here in Canada. What I don't agree with is the notion that everything is much better in the US while Canada stinks.

I believe the public infrastructure, eg. public transit, I think in most Canadian cities(I have stayed in Ottawa, Toronto and Halifax) is excellent. The same cannot be said for most of the US barring NYC.
In 95% places in the US( I stayed in NY, NJ, CT, MA, VA, OR, TX ) you cannot live without a car, whereas in most Canadian cities you can get by pretty well. I think things like that are a huge advantage, especially for people starting out.

This is precisely what I meant by the immigration models are different. People come to Canada without jobs whereas most go to the US with a job.

Again life in the US is very job-centric, whereas in Canada you at least don't feel you are out on the streets immediately if you happen to lose your job. ( I am talking about EI, health benefits etc.) But then again we know that Canada is a far more socialistic compared to the US.



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