Renewal of PR card


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cdn_dude   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-08 14:17:42

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Originally posted by brown_bear

If a person's PR card expires, does it mean he cannot legally work?



No, the PR status (and hence the ability to live and work in Canada) is NOT affected. You just cannot use the card to travel outside of Canada because you will not be able to come back to Canada from the overseas.



kuwaituser   
Member since: May 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-04-08 09:25:36

As per the messages posted here, it seems it is ok to stay in Canada without a valid PR card and work as normal.

1. So if a person manage to enter Canada without the comments "Lost Status" being stamped on his passport, you mean the person can continue to live in Canada even without a PR card. Are there occasions when a valid PR card is required to be shown to the authorities for taking driving licence, health card, purchasing house, filing tax etc.

2. Is a valid PR card required for working in Canada ?

3. Do the SIN number or SIN card have any expiry date or the SIN cards issued initially to a new landed PR is a permanent valid card.

4. Is a valid PR card required at the time of applying for citizenship ?

5. When applying for citizenship, do the authorities only check if the applicant has completed his/her three years of stay in the country preceeding the application and do not bother about the rule of minimum 2 years stay within the 5 year period of the PR in order to be a legal resident.

6. If a PR card is not renewed periodically and if it is not required for all the above formalities, how will the authorities monitor the legal status of a PR and anyone can enter the country before the expiry of his PR card in a private vehicle through US border and continue to stay in Canada.



cdn_dude   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-04-08 11:10:25

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Originally posted by kuwaituser

As per the messages posted here, it seems it is ok to stay in Canada without a valid PR card and work as normal.



-- See the specific message, do not generalize.

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1. So if a person manage to enter Canada without the comments "Lost Status" being stamped on his passport, you mean the person can continue to live in Canada even without a PR card. Are there occasions when a valid PR card is required to be shown to the authorities for taking driving licence, health card, purchasing house, filing tax etc.



-- PR card is a proof of your status - even if it is expired. In order to legally live and work in Canada, you should have entered Canada legally, without any issues (and not simply "manage" to enter Canada without any adverse comments stamped on your passport) and therefore should be a legal PR of Canada. Expired PR card does not indicate that the status is expired. The proof of your landing is required (if not the PR card itself) for the things like health card, driving licence (but not for filing taxes - it requires SIN).

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2. Is a valid PR card required for working in Canada ?



-- No, but the valid legal status is.

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3. Do the SIN number or SIN card have any expiry date or the SIN cards issued initially to a new landed PR is a permanent valid card.



-- SIN card obtained after landing as a PR is yours for the lifetime - it does not have any expiry.

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4. Is a valid PR card required at the time of applying for citizenship ?



-- No. But they ask either for IMM1000 or a PR card (valid or expired) at the time of your citizenship test/oath.

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5. When applying for citizenship, do the authorities only check if the applicant has completed his/her three years of stay in the country preceeding the application and do not bother about the rule of minimum 2 years stay within the 5 year period of the PR in order to be a legal resident.



-- Cannot say for sure. These days they are very vigilant and check for every possible thing.

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6. If a PR card is not renewed periodically and if it is not required for all the above formalities, how will the authorities monitor the legal status of a PR and anyone can enter the country before the expiry of his PR card in a private vehicle through US border and continue to stay in Canada.



-- It is good to follow the rules, you never know what they are looking for. Consequences are severe if caught.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-04-08 14:46:48

The moment they sniff something , they start digging nowadays -- guess thats because lots of people try to screw the system .

KU - how are things with you ? Are you still b/w the devil and the deep sea ( Kuwait vs Canada ) ?


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kuwaituser   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-08 02:52:52

Thanks Fido for enquiring.

Yes.. our situation is more or less between the devil and the deep sea. As the saying goes a known Devil is better than an unknown God, we are still sticking to where we are but still unable to totally severe ties with Canada, as our only child is settling there very well and hence we are emotionally very much tied up with Canada.

As of now we do not want to move to Canada immediately because the Middle East is still very lucurative and life is easy. However, maybe in the next 5 to 6 years, we are planning to move to Canada.

Now in order to do that, as our PR status will be expired by July 2009, we have two routes before us:

1. Get us sponsored by our daughter as dependant parents after she starts working in Canada. However, as she now wants to do higher studies in US, this process will get delayed if she opts to take up employment in US later.

2. The second option which I feel is better is to re-apply for immigration immediately after our PR status expires, provided the authorities do not hold it against us for abandoning our PR status in the first place. Since our only child will be a citizen by then, they may take that into our consideration, as I know Canadians give more importance to families being together. So our re-immigration process will take three years and totally we will get around 6 years time in the Middle East before we finally retire in Canada. Can anyone advise if they see any flaws in our plans in order to be vigilant.

a. What is the process for reapplying ? Do we have to inform any PR Authority in Canada and get "Lost PR status" stamped in our passport or records. We are planning to enter Canada in May 2009 and during that time do we have to do anything specific, which will help us in our re-application process.

I would really appreciate all your views.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-04-08 21:40:46

I do not think forfeiting your PR status failure would affect your re application .

To me this sounds good better to be discussed with an Immigration lawyer . You might want to visit Canada and discuss your current case with the authorities here .

Take a dive - you might find Canada to be a better place specially being close to your son / daughter .


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