My success story by God is Great!
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Posted on: 21-11-04 10:33:30
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
' doodh ka jalaa chaach bhee fook fook ke peetaa hai '
Manasvi, I completely agree ... we must scutinize any story before buying into it.
...but if people start off with calling any success story as boloney and the poster a "clown" ...its time when one has to step in.
we are not taking any sides here .
One has to be wary of those who present Canada as a dreamland and also those who present it as a hellhole. ...the reality is somewhere inbetween, and one must let the reality filter itself out.
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MI, BL and GiG,
I wonder why my posting has not been given any attention. It could be because:
1. It is such a silly post that it is not worth a mention, or
2. So true that no one is able to find a suitable answer/reply to it.
I am one guy who has not taken any sides. I have not called that story as baloney, nor have I claimed it to be absolutely true. What I have asked is simply that to serve the purpose of putting it on forum, it should have some other ingredients too, without which we (or I) are not able to identify it with a mortal human being. Moreover, what is the use of someone putting up such a fact (not a story I would say), if it is neither going to inspire, nor educate, nor assist the reader in any manner whatsoever.
And if the reason for not replying to my post is simply because I am considered a loser - well let me tell you, at your age I was equally (if not more) successful in my career as you guys today are - and that was without the help of internet, fax, msn's, Canadian Desi, and so many other things which have made career choices much easier today and information readily available!
Any takers now - if not, I will consider myself as the fortunate guy who did not spark any 'attack' from the 'supporters' of 'the story AS IT IS' (take it or leave it kinda thing).
Chandresh
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
...but if start people start off with calling any success story as boloney and the poster a "clown" ...its time when one has to step in.
Note that the mods(BL,MI) or me have not objected to your disagreement as long as its been done responsibly. The only thing objected to was the TONE of the disagreement as in the first few posts in this thread. Note that these are the same people who were crying hoarse and indignant about how they were treated not too long ago.
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Orginally posted by chandresh
I wonder why my posting has not been given any attention.
Chandresh,
In case you missed , BL responded to your post soon after it was posted.
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Chandresh, Its not my story. I've been here for much longer than 1 year. I will post mine eventually and it will be under my id.
However, like I said, this person did contact me by phone yesterday and he has his reasons to remain anonymous. It is not my job to question him on that.
Secondly, I would agree many people would be curious as to who this is. But rather than posting questions about this, why start with calling him a clown? Do you agree to this? Read the first few posts here. Just gives an impression that people are waiting to jump on whoever wants to speak about success in Canada.
I agree that GiG would have been better recieved had he posted under his original name and given more specific details about age group, feild of profession etc and people are asking him about it.
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Orginally posted by chandresh
And if the reason for not replying to my post is simply because I am considered a loser - well let me tell you, at your age I was equally (if not more) successful in my career as you guys today are
Well , firstoff, your earleir post has been responded to by BL....Second and most importanly ....no one considers you a loser ( atleast not me).
....please do not think that others think of you as a loser. It is a harmful thought to ones esteem.
I respect the fact from your earlier posts that you had made commendable career achievements in the past ....it is something to always feel good about.
Even without meeting you I consider you , and most members here as successful people .
Everyone has a different take on success in life .
For me success is not just a measure of professional achievement alone .
For me , success is a measure of well being on many fronts -personal and family life ,professional, financial, social , moral , spiritual and many more parameters.
These parameters keep varying for everyone throughout their lives. So if one goes a little lower in one parameter , it does not make anyone a loser, and you are certainly not one.
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Looks likes Chandresh is going through Identity Crisis !!! Chandresh you might be successful in your time without the help of modern technology, gadgets etc. What is so great about it. In every era there have been great people and they didnt have any help available. Take example of Mahatama Gandhi. He had such a great following when there was none of moden technology was available but even then he never boasted about it. The point I am trying to make is every generation has its own challenges and ways to face them. I hope u will be successful in this modern age as well.
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Orginally posted by torontodesi
Looks likes Chandresh is going through Identity Crisis !!! .
Torontodesi,
A request - Please do not make personal disparaging remarks on anyone .
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Orginally posted by God is Great
There is an old adage “The dogs bark while the caravan moves .”
Wrong. There is no adage like that!
You made it up like that MBO bit! Quote:
Orginally posted by God is Great
I never realized that a success story like this one could generate furor.
Not furore! Just frowns and questions!
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Orginally posted by God is Great
Not that I want to cast any aspersions or malign anyone, but the sordid fact is that when someone mentions the very word success, there are those few who are unwilling to accept that word.
Wrong. What leads you to conclude that??
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Orginally posted by God is Great
However it is indeed disheartening to note that instead of benefiting out of a story like this one, a few are keen to nitpick the flaws in the story!!
Oh please, please, pleeeeeze...let me know HOW and WHAT is someone going to benefit from your story. In fact that is what I am so keen to know. And the story does not have flaws. It is utter crap!
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Orginally posted by God is Great
I stand by my story but I have my own reasons to remain incognito.
And I stand by mine that it is an absolute yarn and a poor one at that.
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Orginally posted by God is Great
My sincere thanks to BL, MI and J3D for trying to get some semblance on the matter.
Semblance?? Do you even know the meaning of the word? Obviously you do not, since if you did, you would not have used it in that sentence. The sentence makes no sense!
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Orginally posted by starChaser
Shame on all the cry babies in this post...
Who cried?? Man..oh man! The morons we have in this post.
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
We are promoting objective discussions...
No you are not. Objectivity is the very thing that was missing from GiG's post. It was complete and unadulterated rhetoric replete with the standard mix of morale boosting and inspirational "tips" of “Sell yourself”, “Know your USP”, “Make job specific resumes”, “Dress appropriately”, “Cold call” etc etc. and nothing more!
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
It has happenned way too many times in the past and it is happenning here again.....that as soon as some one posts some success, his post is blasted into smithreens.
Would you mind sharing a few examples where this has happened? I don't seem to find any thread where a success story was "blasted into smithereens" as soon as it was posted? Questioning the authenticity and reliability of information, expression of doubt when a post appears to be worthy of that, should not be labeled as "blasted into smithereens".
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
There are many immigrants struggling here , no one is denying that. But there are also many first generation immigrants who manage to do extremely well.
No one is denying that either. But "many" does not mean "most"! It is only when brazen attempts are made by some to paint a piture more alluring and optimistic than it actually is, that gets me to cry foul!!
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
Dont you think everyone can benefit from their side of story as well ? is it right to label it as boloney right from the get go.
What sort of benefit, other than inspirational, do you think can possibly accrue from the type of story narrated by GiG? Even if it is assumed to be true, all I learn from the story is that miracles happen and hope for one to happen to me too.
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
to draw an analogy say , if you want to survey about life in Bombay...you conduct the survey in dharavi and other strugling areas only and reach a conclusion that it is a horrible place to be ....would the conclusion be accurate?
I am afraid, your analogy needs a little correction. A more appropriate analogy would be , say you are conducting a survey of what happens to people coming from Delhi to Bombay for the purpose of settling in Bombay. That survey reveals that only a few of them do really achieve success. Most(>50%) however find it a difficult struggle and a lot of them land up living in Dharavi.
Can you see the difference between the analogy given by you and mine??
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
Manasvi, I completely agree ... we must scutinize any story before buying into it.
...but if people start off with calling any success story as boloney and the poster a "clown" ...its time when one has to step in.
Hey MI! I did perform the first action that you suggest. It was only because of the "scrutiny" that I was led to make the remarks you mention in the latter part of your comment.
Do I assume, that your problem is not that I found the story a piece of fiction but that I used some mildly offensive terms to address the poster and his post??
Now that the post has been virtually proven to be untrue, don't you think "clown" and "baloney" are rather mild for a person who indulges in fraudulence?
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Orginally posted by Mishtar India
I agree that GiG would have been better recieved had he posted under his original name and given more specific details about age group, feild of profession etc and people are asking him about it.
I think we are still missing the moot point. Mention of his age, qualifications etc would only have added figures to s certain type of statistic. Like younger people have better chances, or IT has better options etc. What I, and I hope the so called "losers"(although I cringe whenever I am forced to use that term) would be more interested in knowing is what exactly did GiG do that led to this miracle?? The "tips" that are made available in the post do NOT lead to such miracles!! So then what DID??
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