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Posted on: 22-11-04 18:35:28
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
Are u crazy?? Or you have absolutely no sense of humour left??? Is it really so difficult to read that statement down there which goes something like this:
Sorry, just mazaak kar rahey they!!
and then followed by:
Coming/not coming ka decision is your call!
What's wrong with you man?? Are u ok??
Let's re-direct the question in the proper direction, i.e. to you.
Are you ok? Was this question posted in the HAVE FUN section? I don't see anything humorous in the question, what gives you the right to answer this way? Or do you just have a lot of time to waste??
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Really,
I don't see anything funny there at all, I read it again. Its pretty lame, absolutely no laugh-value. Nothing original, nothing creative. Just plain lame.
Also, where's the constructive suggestions? Let's at least add SOME value to this nonsense you started. Go for it.
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
You made the comment "DTC opinions(which only deride)." was made on this very thread.
Bingo!!and thats where it is applicable
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You make lose statements and comments and then when asked for evidence or substantiation, start hedging and skirting.
Thanks anyway!
again diff in perspective. Thats what I see you doing. So far none of your posts have been constructive. The post that you did make...as wisernow...which was much better...is something DTC was advicing against. Lack of integrity as I see it...but thats just me
. You do have the time. With that attitude its not a mystery why. I'm probably a decade or more younger than you...I hope you do grow up
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Anyways, where are those "different" constructive suggestions that you never had?
I am not sure I understand your question.
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Since you're so ticked at the repetitive ideas of resume building, you must have something original, right?
I did not say I was ticked at the idea of resume building. It has been done to death and everyone already knows that. In any case, I have not made any comments on any of the posts where these things have been suggested repeatedly. It was only in this particular thread that the OP appeared to be crock, that I couldn't resist.
However, even if I was, I do not see how my being "ticked" at the repetetive ideas of resume building implies that I MUST have something original.
As for me suggesting something, I have already said what I had to. I have nothing more to add.
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
I've seen a big blank there so far from "people like you" despite repeated requests.
What have you got from "people NOT like me" that is not already known or easily available?
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
What's your point here?
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Cause if you were really trying to help someone out, you'd have come up with something contructive too.
Let us do something! Create a poll with a link to GiG's post! Ask people after having read the post :
1. Do they feel more enlightend?
2. Do they feel better equipped in any way for job hunting?
3. Have they learnt something from the post that was unique and not known to them?
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Anyways, where are those "different" constructive suggestions that you never had?
I am not sure I understand your question.
I'm not surprised.
Let me explain. Here's what you said
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My remarks/observations follow each recommendation/suggestion.
Before coming:
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1.stopped watching Kyonki Saas and started concentrating on websites where they gave all information on Canada, jobs, culture, climate etc.
Having applied for immigration, almost everyone DOES spend a lot of time on the web learning about Canada, and looking up jobs on monster etc. How many has it helped?
2. Surf the net and use it to make one of the best Resumes.
I feel like puking every time I hear it now!! This "resume" thing has been done to death!!
3. Call up Manpower consultants in Canada and leave messages on their voice mail.
Not clear if this activity did really help the gentleman. Wonder what the other desis have to say in general about the success rate of recruiters getting jobs for immigrants, that too calling from India.
4. two months the number of applications sent out - 500 .
I am afraid that appears to be a highly inflated figure. A search for jobs in SAP brings up only 408 jobs for the whole of Canada and they include all types of jobs in SAP in all modules.
After coming:
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1.A good resume is a key and your resume must outshine others.
:: TC goes to the washroom...(sounds of retching)...comes back:::
2. Practice interview skills, learn local lingo and anecdotes.
First part quite common. What does “local lingo” mean? Learning words like “dude”, “cool” etc? Is that likely to help in an interview. Please realize that the gentleman has mentioned it as distinct from learning proper English.
3. Read a lot on Canada.
Really? I thought we had got over that in the “before” phase?! Read what? History of Canada, the natives what?
4. English, English and English – work on that department.
I think we have an entire thread dedicated to this issue and so I will reserve my comments.
5. Networking works.
Now THAT is what I call one helluva tip!!!
6. spending close to 10-12 hrs jointly surfing the net every day.
That is really a lot of time and certainly not recommended because it leaves you with very little time to do many other more useful things.
7. Did not attend the Settlement session at the immigration consultant.
That is a need based requirement and has no bearing on job hunting.
8. surfed the web in the wee hours of the morning. I used to sleep at midnight and get up at 3:00 am in the morning. Sending resumes
Not clear how surfing the web in the “wee” hours of the morning is any better than surfing at any other time of the day.
9. Weekend – while others are out shopping and meeting friends, I surf the net
Whew!! That is humongous amount of surfing.
10. Befriend the Librarian at Brampton Library and show her my resume
Worthy suggestion!
11. dressed for the occasion
None:
12. Decide not to buy steel boots.
Good decision!
Summarizing even further, the one factor that has been repeatedly stressed is “surfing”. Is there anything else that is important or not already known to all and sundry that I am missing?? Please do point it out.
Nothing is gained from the story, except that if it is true, it only lends credence to the fact that opportunity and chance are even greater players than was originally conceived!
Agreed, all this has been said before in human history. But usually when I pick holes into something the way you have, I come up with a constructive alternative. So since all these suggestions have been used to death, can you give us a few that have NOT been?
Just trying to make this thread constructive so that someone (including myself) may derive from your wisdom.
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
Let us do something! Create a poll with a link to GiG's post! Ask people after having read the post :
1. Do they feel more enlightend?
2. Do they feel better equipped in any way for job hunting?
3. Have they learnt something from the post that was unique and not known to them?
Absolutely. But not for this one post. Its only ONE part of a whole Success Stories section. And we can't go around having polls for a single post.
When the section is old enough, we will certainly have a poll asking users about the WHOLE section. That's a great suggestion, thanks.
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Orginally posted by jake3d
Should we have a new thread where you are going to lay down some constructive topics? Even Mercury has done that one time or another.
What about you and KAP? Rest assured...I will support you in this matter
Man, what is your problem with Merc/Kap/dio......you have repeated it many times now.
Now it seems Kap is ok, because he agreed with you on some things.
First I am no angel and now you are \\\"even Mercury has done that\\\".
Please stop with the patronizing.
Does it really hurt the website so much when we question things?
I am getting the impression that you guys want it to go in a certain direction.
You (and all others) have had quite a discussion with DTC.
I am not going to jump in defence of DTC (he is quite capable of doing that by hmself), except to say he was right in calling out this person.
Why couldnt such a successful person (presumably intelligent too) follow simple directions laid out by GG to post success stories?
and he follows it with more irrelevant stuff , surprised that his sensational soap generated so many question.
If he had given details instead of throwing proverbs like \\\"DOg....Caravan\\\", trust we we all would applaud. We still might have questions, But we would not doubt the very substance of the story. I.e. there is a successful person.
If his desire to remain incognito is so strong then he should have just avoided putting such a story which is extremely short on hard details and long on other things.
Eveybody else has posted their story properly and answered any further questions. except ...
You yourself have said "the bigger man will walk away". yet I dont see you following it.
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