Against the moderators and my own wishes I wish to post this since I feel that some posters are being snubbed at and hence may feel unwelcome 2 post their views -thereby restricting freedom of thoughts -- as some1 said 'crenshaw uses language that hurts'

Please note that criticisms and arguments make the discussion more meaningful only of they are made with right intent and in the right direction . Meaningless , scornful posts / language should b avoided. You can make your point in an amicable manner also .


A SMALL ANALYSIS OF THE PERSONALITY OF CRENSHAW WHICH WE HAVE 2 BEAR WITH FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS .

SOMEONE WHO IN HIS OVER OPTIMISM (READ OBSESSION) GOES ON TO

1.CHIDE OTHER POSTERS

'If you get out of your ghetto sometime, you might change your opinion!'


'Don't know why you insist on making personal comments!

As far as you are concerned, you remind me of the loads of pathetic people who come to Canada, can't do anything with their lives, so bad mouth the whole country.'

LOOK WHOS SPEAKING OF PERSONAL COMMENTS??


2. GETS PERSONAL WHEN HE CANT PROVE HIS POINT

'Goodbye and good riddance. People like you contribute to the negative stereotypes of South Asians in the western world.'

3.DIGRESSES THE TOPIC INTO SOME MEANINGLESS POINT SO THAT THE MAJOR TOPIC IS LEFT BEHIND


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'If a prospective employer thinks that a person would not gel into his team, can't see why it would take 'nerve' to 'show the person the door''
MARK THE ISSUE WAS AN IIT ENGINEER WHO WUD B ACCEPTED BY ALL IS TURNED AWAY BY CANADIAN EMPLOYER FOR REASONS BEST KNOWN TO THEM OR CRENSHAW.

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HSMP is meant for working in the UK which is a 'booming' economy when compared with Canada .
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An average HSMP holder is much above in terms of accomplishments and credentials as compared to an average Canadian Immigrant .

To get a hang on the thing kindly follow the url

http://www.hsmp-services.co.uk/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=3
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'But, notwithstanding all of their efforts to "understand" who is coming into their country, you still hear comments of this nature......read on

http:/www.hsmp-services.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=812

Some excerpts
"Soory !!!! UK has no jobs to offer. My resume was impressive but no company have job suitable for me. I am overqualified."

Sound familiar?'

THE POINT RAISED IS JUST AN ATTEMPT TO SWERVE THE THREAD & DOES NOT ADD VALUE



4. GOES ON 2 POST BIASED STATISTICS . LITTLE KNOWING THAT STATISTICS CAN BE MADE ON PURPOSE

5.GENERALISES OTHERS STATEMENTS 2 HIS ADVANTAGE AND REFUTES AGAINST GENERALIZATION OF HIS OWN WHEN CHALLENGED
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So u really agree with most ppl that technical skills, education doesn't matter as long as you know English. hmmmm interesting.
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'?? never said that, nor do I know anyone who said anything of the sort. What I did say, was that your technical skills wouldn't count for squat if you didn't have have the ability to communicate in an appropriate manner. If you take a moment to try to understand, you'll figure out that there is a difference.'

SO 1 SHOULDN'T GENERALISE U AGREE 'HOW COME U GENRALISE OTHERS STATEMENTS ??

'What I find particularly repulsive is statements that suggest that ONLY people who were 'zilch'professionaly in India or elsewhere 'SHOULD' immigrate to Canada or that ONLY people who are 'zilch' immigrate to Canada. I also dislike the suggestion that ALL immigrants get stuck in dead-end jobs the moment they arrive in Canada.'

MARK THAT THE ONLY ALL AND SHOULD WERE NOT USED BY THE ORIGINAL POSTER BUT WERE THROWN IN TO GENERALISE AND CHANGE THE MEANING - A FAVORITE PLOY.

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Its really good that v r living in the age of Information Technology and prospective Immigrants are getting better aware of what-to-expect and taking informed decisions unlike Immigrants say 10 years back .

People have started realising that Canada in most probability may not be the Western dream they have always dreamt of . I kind of agree with the critics as the place unfit for intellegensia. Where PhDs and High School passouts do the same job theres is certainly something amiss professionally . Any take why successful professionals back home -- IITs /IIMs / Doctors and now even IT guys stay away from Canadian dream ---- they are getting informed I conjecture .

However if u r nt a pro wizard and seek better living conditions the place may not disappoint u .

Manasvi.
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'Hmm, so all immigrants who came here 10 years ago, took uninformed decisions?'

MARK I NEVER MENTIONED THE WORD 'ALL' BUT HE ADDED IT 2 CHANGE THE MEANING .MARK THAT HE HAS SKIPPED THE DOCTOR/IIT/IIM PORTION WHICH WAS VERY MUCH VALID .

'.........and you insinuate that you are educated and that everyone else in Canada is uneducated. Good riddance!'

YET AGAIN THE POSTER DIDN'T USE THE WORD EVERYONE



6. GOES ON QUOTING AND EXTENDING SPACE WHICH ACTS AS AN IRRITANT

7. HE SEEMS 2 B OBSESSIVE ABT OTHERS'; LANGUAGE. WONDER WHY ?


Almost all thread in which he gets into arguments and counter arguments lose their meaning.He may b having high regards4 his own self but others also have no less. Aapke bade hone se baaki sab chotey nahin ho jaatey . And no1 has the right of undermining others and putting them down when they are also putting in their own experiences as you are .

Imagine what happens if people stop responding 2 his posts !!

Manasvi.

Hey look! I have my own thread again!

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Imagine what happens if people stop responding 2 his posts !!

Manasvi.

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Way to go crenshaw .... I can see a star on the walk of fame, a street named after you and of course the Knighthood !!!!

Wow people are really obsessed with you man !!!!


Wonder what they have to say about the numerous posts/polls regarding why people should not immigrate to Canada but inspite of everything they still do and then whine so in what way does the forum really help them ???

Maybe someone should create a poll of number of people who have decided against moving to Canada after reading the threads on this forum. I wont be surprised if it is 0%.

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Way to go crenshaw .... I can see a star on the walk of fame, a street named after you and of course the Knighthood !!!!

Wow people are really obsessed with you man !!!!

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Way to go crenshaw .... I can see a star on the walk of fame, a street named after you and of course the Knighthood !!!!

Wow people are really obsessed with you man !!!!

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Wonder what they have to say about the numerous posts/polls regarding why people should not immigrate to Canada but inspite of everything they still do....

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The Cynic

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Jub immigrant ki barbaadi aatee hai to woh Canada aataa hai!!

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And you don't have to suck up to anyone to prove yourself!

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