Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi
I do acknowledge what u have said and it is correct that people shdnt make personal hurting comments .
Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw
If you and your ilk don't make irrational comments, everyone can coexist and you bring your blood pressure down a couple of notches.
I'd like to think we have an agreement of sorts here.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Recommended Services- Servicedomino.com
http://www.servicedomino.com
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Orginally posted by crenshaw
If you and your ilk don't make irrational comments, everyone can coexist and you bring your blood pressure down a couple of notches.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How can you decide who is being rational and who's being irrational. If you found a good job in ur field and you love everything about Canada, good for you. Not everyone has had the same experience as you've had.
If there are no websites like these, ppl would just look at the govt. websites, maybe email or talk across continents to some recruiters who just paint a pretty picture and apply for immigration. When I applied from the US and talked to recruiters the only thing they told me is "come over and we'll get you something". The only thing I got was a job in a warehouse. I don't mind working in warehouse as it's a honest job, but yes it hurts a person deep down when everyone tells you that ur not Canadian educated or experienced. Makes you feel that u r some uneducated person who knows nothing about anything. I spent yrs working and studying hard to become a CTO and coming here the education, experience was treated like someone throwing away previous days newspaper in a waste paper basket.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Orginally posted by Kabeer
Wonder what they have to say about the numerous posts/polls regarding why people should not immigrate to Canada but inspite of everything they still do....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the last 3 yrs, I've had 4-5 friends who wanted to come here. I explained the situation to them, sent them the links to research. 1 of them also made a choice of visiting Canada before applying. After going around for 2 mths he figured out he didn't want to stay here. Thus he went to Australia and has a decent job . The 2nd one is in England again a decent job. 2 of them prefered to stay in India and only 1 is still in process of figuring out whether he wants to or not.
I don't have anything against Canada, but when more than 60% of trained professionals are suffering, there has to something wrong with the system. The only way to help new immigrants is let them make the choice, but they should know the positives and negatives otherwise more of "Crenshaw's" irrational stuff will be put up.
Quote:
Orginally posted by jatan
How can you decide who is being rational and who's being irrational. If you found a good job in ur field and you love everything about Canada, good for you. Not everyone has had the same experience as you've had.
I'd agree that the definition of what is rational can be subjective. However, statements like "Canada is a place of uneducated personnels" are uncalled for, plain and simple. If someone decides they want to say something like that, they should be prepared for the fact that I will come right back and possibly say something unflattering. If they choose to respond to that, we can go right ahead and have a war of words.
As far as your 60% number is concerned how to you know that its 60%? Do you have some research that substantiates that number or is just hearsay or personal experience.
From my own experience, immigrants are often at least partly to blame for the ‘predicament’ if any, that they find themselves in. Many immigrants that I associate with (and I), took the effort to research skills that were in demand, upgraded our qualifications before landing, discussed our equivalency with the body that regulates our profession and make quick transitions into the Canadian workforce. Rest assured, neither are we ‘uneducated’, nor were we doing ‘zilch’ in our professions in India or the Middle East (where I worked before coming to Canada). Most of us have absolutely no reason to complain about Canada, BUT we took the effort to do our homework.
This has been discussed on tons of threads all across this board, I’m just out to have some fun now………!
Jake – if only, we could find a way to get that ode onto a record, eh?
Marked for Deletion
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Prabhuji
Architectural Labourer
Canada Sucks
Quote:
Orginally posted by prabhub
Crenshaw: -> do you ever work or have you ever sweated to earn money?
Thanks
Heck no, since I work in an 'air conditioned' office, I obviously don't sweat. Can appreciate that that is probably what happens in the shit hole you work in though.......
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 12-05-05 12:38:49
Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw
Quote:
Orginally posted by jatan
How can you decide who is being rational and who's being irrational. If you found a good job in ur field and you love everything about Canada, good for you. Not everyone has had the same experience as you've had.
I'd agree that the definition of what is rational can be subjective. However, statements like \"Canada is a place of uneducated personnels\" are uncalled for, plain and simple. If someone decides they want to say something like that, they should be prepared for the fact that I will come right back and possibly say something unflattering. If they choose to respond to that, we can go right ahead and have a war of words.
As far as your 60% number is concerned how to you know that its 60%? Do you have some research that substantiates that number or is just hearsay or personal experience.
From my own experience, immigrants are often at least partly to blame for the ‘predicament’ if any, that they find themselves in. Many immigrants that I associate with (and I), took the effort to research skills that were in demand, upgraded our qualifications before landing, discussed our equivalency with the body that regulates our profession and make quick transitions into the Canadian workforce. Rest assured, neither are we ‘uneducated’, nor were we doing ‘zich’ in our professions in India or the Middle East (where I worked before coming to Canada). Most of us have absolutely no reason to complain about Canada, BUT we took the effort to do our homework.
This has been discussed on tons of threads all across this board, I’m just out to have some fun now………!
Jake – if only, we could find a way to get that ode onto a record, eh?
First of call congrats on getting an Ode.. I cant say im jealous though
Often people forget that its not only immigrants that have problems finding work in their field. Unemployment is still high around the country although often stats in the media will say otherwise.
I agree with Jatan that its very subjective, and the type of experience one has will most likely shape their views of the new country ('stereotyping'). I also agree with you that everyone is responsible for his/her own success - if they do their homework.
Interestingly, I find that government of Canada job search/labour market info websites do not emphasize the abundance of jobs in Canada. These websites are all geared to assisting foriegn trained immigrants obtain credential evaluation, how to prepare resumes before you land etc. They dont appear to be overly optimistic either.. just factual. I think this proves that everything is subject to interpretation...
-----------------------------------------------------------------
~ Morning rain
----------------------------------------------------------------
Orginally posted by Crenshaw
If someone decides they want to say something like that, they should be prepared for the fact that I will come right back and possibly say something unflattering. If they choose to respond to that, we can go right ahead and have a war of words.
As far as your 60% number is concerned how to you know that its 60%? Do you have some research that substantiates that number or is just hearsay or personal experience.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Well personally no sense of fighting about who can say what because as u say u can say something unflattering the other person who wrote in first case has the same right from his own perspective.
about the numbers u'll find a lot of info about that from numerous websites if u are ready to look and believe. U can ask M_Rain about the stats too as she is empl. counsellor.
When I moved, relocated in US nobody seemed to have problems about things. When I applied for immigration on point basis I assumed that that by itself it means my equivalency etc are going to considered. Don't blame us for that. By the time I figured that one out, all my money was gone and we were in debts. For this I agree with ppl. like Prabhu etc who fell in the same trap.
that's why I say bashing about this problem is important for ppl to read and understand in order to do their homework, before they thk about moving in to a place like Canada, otherwise we'll keep on seeing even more worse bashing's about this place, the place which we have decided to live in and make our home.
