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I think it will be overturned............we cannot afford another shah bano.
I think i still have some faith left in our system.

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Azaz..FYI... I dont think others (you-know-who) dont seem to share your opinion.. Read the comments in Boldface... However.. there are others who do share your views...(in italics)...

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=50484

Charthawal, July 12: Shameem, a Muslim farmer in Uttar Pradesh, is convinced there is a new conspiracy to humiliate his minority religion in the predominantly Hindu country.

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The swarthy man, his eyes blazing with anger, stands in a narrow alley separating mud-and-brick houses in Charthawal town and warns a dozen men around him of the coming danger.

"There is a plot to insult all Muslims and throw mud on our reputation," Shameem tells his friends in the sugar cane growing region of Uttar Pradesh.

"The Bharatiya Janata Party, these women committees and media are making a big issue out of a small family matter to defame Islam," he said, as several others nodded.

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Many Muslims in Charthawal are willing to believe him.

For weeks now, their dusty rural town has been caught in a national storm over the status of the country's Muslim women, among the least educated and empowered, and the power of Islamic clerics to dictate social norms.

The debate has been hijacked by political parties and now threatens to create new divisions between India's 130 million Muslims and the majority Hindus, who make 80 per cent of the officially secular nation's population of more than one billion.

Charthawal hit the headlines last month when a 28-year-old Muslim resident and mother of five small children, Imrana Bibi, was allegedly raped by her father-in-law -- the "small family matter" referred to by Shameem.

While the father-in-law was arrested after a complaint by Imrana, a Muslim village council decreed she had to live as her father-in-law's wife and treat her husband as her "son", outraging feminists and liberal Muslims.

South Asia's most influential Islamic theological school, Darul Uloom Deoband, also in Uttar Pradesh, decreed Imrana could not live with her husband as she was now prohibited to him according to the Koran, sparking a furore that led to street protests.

HINDU NATIONALIST ATTACK

Muslims are governed by Islamic personal laws on issues such as marriages, divorce and property inheritance but come under secular law for criminal offences such as murder, rape and robbery.

The opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), have long campaigned for common personal laws and charged that Muslims enjoyed special privileges under what they dub a pseudo-secular policy.

Imrana's case has given them a fresh opening.

"Muslims want personal laws for social matters. But when it comes to criminal law, they follow secular law rather than Islamic law where there are punishments like stoning to death," said Mukut Gupta, a shopkeeper in nearby Muzaffarnagar town.

"This is wrong."

The BJP, floundering in opposition after its shock defeat in national polls last year, sees an opportunity in the controversy to revive its fortunes, analysts said.

"The trouble is that in Muslim personal law, there is total resistance to any change," BJP leader B.P. Singhal said on a television debate, adding that Hindu religious laws have been amended regularly over the past few decades to bring them more into sync with women's rights.

Reforming Muslim personal law is a sensitive issue in India.

In the 1980s, the case of an old Muslim woman, who took her rejected alimony plea to the Supreme Court, sparked a crisis over whether the court had jurisdiction over Islamic law.

The court's judgment upheld her right to alimony but this was later reversed by the then Congress government through a new law, seen as one of the contributing factors to the rise of the BJP on a Hindu nationalist platform. (For readers...The famous Shah-Bano case... a shameful episode in India courtesy of yoru Fav. SECULAR party... The Congress)

CLERICS RESIST CHANGE

Some Muslim clerics say there is no need to change personal laws as Islam provides self-respect to its women and back the decree against Imrana.

"According to Islam, after what happened between her and her father-in-law, a sacred relationship was violated," said Zulfiqur Ali, the most senior Muslim cleric in Muzaffarnagar.

"She cannot live with her husband anymore as the atmosphere in the family has become soiled."

Muslim women activists reject that contention and argue that Imrana should continue living with her husband as the couple's relationship remains intact.

Adil Salahi, the religion editor of Saudi Arabia's Arab News daily, agreed. He said the alleged rape did not imply a relationship between Bibi and her father-in-law to prohibit her from her husband.

"Therefore, there is no question about the validity of her marriage. The fatwa (religious order) is absurd," Salahi wrote in a national daily.

But the pressure is telling on Imrana.

"I will abide by the sharia," she said, referring to the Islamic law on social issues.

"But please leave me alone, please," the woman, covered from head to toe in a black gown and veil, pleaded with dozens of reporters who flocked her village.

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where the hell are all the people who are taking a keen interest in the imrana case....seems like they have their hands full.

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This one does not further their agenda.

I was wondering if anybody would draw parallels between the 2 cases since kraj posted this story on the 'where is ON' thread. Apparently many dont

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1166889.cms

where the hell are all the people who are taking a keen interest in the imrana case....seems like they have their hands full.

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This one does not further their agenda.

I was wondering if anybody would draw parallels between the 2 cases since kraj posted this story on the 'where is ON' thread. Apparently many dont

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My Point precisely!

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are jake and azzaz the same guys.......

I have a feeling .... by the way the two of them write that they are the same ... one guy writing for another or may be joined at the hip...

but hey ... u guys not observing two minute silence for the blast victims in London.

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Sherlock holmes (Imagine him with a bidi and khaki outfit instead of the original black overcoat and pipe )at work...........Everyone beware or atleast the split personality ones!!

Good one vasu

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are jake and azzaz the same guys.......

I have a feeling .... by the way the two of them write that they are the same ... one guy writing for another or may be joined at the hip...

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stop feeling and start thinking ?
you probably have a problem with what we write. I've got more than 1400 posts here...i really dont think i'd have the time to post under multiple ids too. Maybe I should...when my rants do not receive much support validation or withstand scrutiny, I should probably create ids and post...thus having a cpl of posts under each ID...like some people