baliyan   
Member since: Oct 05
Posts: 32
Location: india

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-11-05 00:44:35

Dear Manasvi,

This is part of mail which I got from siemens with respect to course fees and courses (MODULES) bit older

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We haven't schedule our courses after Sep. We shall keep you updated about the same. Our FICO batch starts from June 13, 2005 and then July 25, 2005.

Yes it is mandatory to have the domain knowledge because without it you cannot cope up with the course itself. Kindly send in your detailed cv so that we can suggest you the suitable module.

Please find the fees details below:
Training Fee: INR 2,25,000/- + 22,950/- (Service Tax
payable to \"Siemens Information Systems Limited\"

Certification Fee: INR 25,000/- +2550/- (Service Tax
payable to \"SAP India Pvt. Ltd.\"


We would be giving Training on Enterprise version i.e. 4.7.

No there would not be any live projects. There would be only a case study which is a dummy project in the 5th week of the training..


Siemens Information Systems Ltd.,
VIPPS Center,
2,Local Shopping Center,Block EFGH,
Masjid Moth,Greater Kailash Part II,
New Delhi -110048.
Tel No: 91-11-29221247
91-11-29220697
91-11-29221248
Fax No: 91-11-29214685
http://www.sisl.siemens.co.in" rel="nofollow">LINK

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The SAP Academy Programs SAP leading to a SAP Certified Consultant are a 5 week, full time, intensive courses for aspiring SAP Consultants. The candidate takes only one module at a time. The course logically culminates in a Certification Exam conducted by SAP. On successfully clearing of the Certification Exam, the candidate becomes an SAP Certified Consultant in that specific module. The Certificate is awarded by SAP AG and is valid and is accepted internationally.



Depending on the your profile and experience along with your qualifications you may choose to take up one of the following as your domain and area of specialization:



The following are the tracks in which SAP Certifications are available:



FUNCTIONAL : Financial and Managerial Accounting (FI-CO), SCM – Order Fulfillment (SD), SCM – Procurement (MM), Production – Planning/ Manufacturing, Management/ Administration (HR), Project Systems (PS), Plant Maintenance (PM).



TECHNICAL : ABAP (Advanced Business Application Programming)



NEW DIMENSION: APO, CRM, SEM (For practicing ERP Consultants)



SAP Certified Consultant shall understand the business processes of the various department of the organisation implementing SAP and configure it on the SAP Application for the cost reduction, improvement in process and maximum profitability.



The total fee for each of the Module is INR 2,50,000/- plus 10.2% service tax.This is inclusive of the Certification fee of INR 25,000/-.



Kindly arrange to call us or provide your phone numbers to reach you.I would appreciate if you can meet us personally and discuss your profile in detail or mail me your detailed CV.



Training Calender At Delhi



Management & Administration (HR) August 22 till September 23, 2005

SCM-Order Fulfillment (SD) September 5 till October 7, 2005

SCM-Manufacturing (PP) August 29 till September 30, 2005

Financial Accounting (FICO) July 25 till August 26, 2005

SCM-Procurement (MM) Aug 1 till September 2, 2005

ABAP July 18 till Aug 19, 2005

Project Systems (PS) July 25 till August 26, 2005

Plant Maintenance (PM) July 18 till Aug 19, 2005

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Hope it helps
Baliyan



Manasvi   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 733
Location: Bahrain

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-11-05 00:11:33

Thanks Baliyan , Ritu & Mercury6,

It is really morale boosting to have every1 ready to help each other .I bet we can start a technical knowledge sharing forum amongst us :) .

SAP @ Rs 3 lacs ....... 5 weeks ........ thats steepest trainig cost I ve heard . 1 shd b really sure b4 investing that kind of money . How much value addition does the trainng @ Siemens do to get u a job in Canada .I know training is just a start off & its ur application which counts but SAP training is an expensive start . Does any1 know sm1 who s taken this training & landed @ Canada . ?? More inputs on SAP please ........ lets discuss this out as well .

Manasvi.



dan   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 449
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-11-05 15:37:02

Hi

Actually there is another company called Genovate which offers authorized SAP training in Mumbai. I can dig up the contact details if needed. Cost is about the same ie 2.5 lacs per module.

And finally SAP India offers training in Bangalore.

so there are 3 authorized SAP training providers but as Manasvi said its an expensive start.



ritujoshi   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 38
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-11-05 21:55:37

There is one point to think...
Once you complete the training in SAP..you would ideally like to start some project soon..else you will lose the touch in SAP.
I dont think it is that easy to get hold of SAP CDs so that you can Install it and practise at home.(Like you can do for .net or Java)
Also SAP Installation will take a lot of Hardware resource (Read more like >2GB of memory for installation of all the components).Even if you install the sample database it will take a lot of resource. There are few companies in USA which train you in SAP and give you access to their Server for practice, but I doubt if there are any facility available like this in India. The down side in this approach here is the companies in USA are all highly unprofessional Desis Companies whose sole motive is to market you with as less expense as possible and hence the training is very Poor.

If wishes were horses
and horses could fly....:(



indione   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 76
Location: Canada and India

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-11-05 22:19:00

Just a few comments on SAP.

It takes 80 to 120 GB of hard disk space depending on the version to install SAP. I understand there are guys in Hyderabad who install SAP for a fee.

Most companies in Canada ask for at least one end to end implementation experience if not more. Getting end to end implementation is easier in India but you have to invest at least two years since most companies will first take you in a support role and then give you an end to end implementation.

Siemens and Genovate are the only SAP authorised centres in India and you can get SAP certification after the training. There are other unauthorised players in the market but one has to be careful. I know guys who have done SAP courses from these unauthorised centres and have landed jobs in accenture in India. The demand in India is so huge that IBM has put up a hoarding outside Bandra station for SAP walkins.


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Manasvi   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 733
Location: Bahrain

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-11-05 02:12:43

So SAP is a career !! albeit an expensive one at that .

SAP Bangalore
Genovite Mumbai
SISL Delhi

How do we rate these places ? Are there any known good places in Hyderabad . Kindly quote some well known Unauthorized centers in Hyderabad if known ??

What are the prospects in Canada for a fresh Certified SAP Trained professional having no implementation experience as a Consultant ? Are training jobs available ??

Yes the infrastructure to self practice is infeasible unless its a joint effort .

Manasvi.



desi_driller   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 419
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-11-05 10:28:06

SAP

1. you can get SAP IDES remote access at US 100 per month. Many people provide this in canada.

2. In my opinion , either you do Course from Authorised Centre like SAP Canada, SAP India or Siemens. There is no point going to unathorised insitute in India. We have lot of them in Canada who charge around 2000 CAD.

3. Getting a Certified consultuntat without any experience is possible now days due to high demand. As in a team 50% people has to be certified , chances are quite good. But, you will have to take help from these insitutes.

4. I know few persons where non IT persons got job after doing certification. But certification will help you a lt.

5. There may be somebody who loads SAP in your disk in Canada ( MIn. 80 GB ) if you do,nt want to spend 100 $ per month for practice.


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