How to keep my immigrants' status alive w/o staying for 3 years in canada ?


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Ashokved   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-06 08:32:27

Hi, my name is Ashok, living in Dubai. Last year in May 2005 I landed in Toront with my family to stamp the visa.

After visiting there, I dont think we as whole family may mograte to Canada as I dont think it's feasible for me to begin my career allover again. However, we intend sending our chikdren to pursue their education.

My daughter is in grade 11 and by April 2008 she will complete her 12th grade and become eligible to enter University.

But, what I understood that within first 3 years of stamping our first visit, we need to get back in Canada tostay longer period, how much is this longer period ?

What happens if we all 4 family members dont enter Canada within first 3 years ?

Most importantly, i want to know that are there any ways & means whereby we can get this process extended, "direct or even indirect" ways of proving that we were there but keep our immigrants' status alive by any means ?

Appreciate your feedback.

Kind regards

Ashok



chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
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Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-06 09:02:28

Firstly, there is no means of extending the validity - this rule has been introduced to weed out those people who do not actually want to stay in Canada but want only the benefits of this country.

Secondly we immigrants who have been staying here and dealing with the ups and downs that this country has to offer would also not like people like you to take advantage of our labour (one such example is that you are looking for cheaper education for your child as a PR, funded by taxes paid by us living in Canada, as opposed to a foreign student, even though you can easily afford it by living in Dubai).

Thirdly, it is people like you who reduce the chances of more deserving candidates who want to make Canada their home. While I persoanlly am not waiting for any of my friends or relations to come over to Canada on migration visa, but know quite a few who are waiting in the queue which is unnecessarily long due to people like you. Infact, I sincerly wish that this rule is changed to 2 years instead of three years.

Personally speaking and perhaps voicing the thoughts of many others here in Canada, we simply do not want people like you to continue your PR. I do not think we want to support anyone who says 'I dont think we as whole family may mograte to Canada as I dont think it's feasible for me to begin my career allover again'

Chandresh


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Big Vee   
Member since: Jan 05
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-06 14:49:39

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Originally posted by Ashokved

Most importantly, i want to know that are there any ways & means whereby we can get this process extended, "direct or even indirect" ways of proving that we were there but keep our immigrants' status alive by any means ?





Hello Ashok,

I love that line! What you are asking is for some way to CHEAT the system. Goes to show the mentality some people have. Just think of what he is teaching his kids!!

Well Ashok, there is a way. But you'll have to choose between that career and your wife/kids. Since you love your career so much, you can stay in Dubai. You can send your kids to Canada for a subsidized education. You will of course need to send your wife along, since your kids' visa is as dependants of you and your wife. Their PR is null and void if you or your spouse doesn’t have one.

Ashok, have you heard of kids who say things like " my father was never there for me" or "All my father did was send money". Or they might say something like this to you- "Now you care, all of a sudden?" - "who do you think you are?".

Finally Ashok, I agree with Chandresh. He used the term "we immigrants", but I say we, Canadians, would prefer if you went somewhere else.

BV



ftfl   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-06 17:02:47

Hello Ashokved,
I fully agree with chandresh and Big Vee. I will also chime in and say that you should not be posting a letter like this on a website that advices Honesty. If there is any way that you can withdraw or delete this letter, please find out from the moderators to do that. Before you do that I want to say my two bits in here and see if it helps you, in your situation.

FIRST to start my letter here, "WHAT A CRUEL WORLD WE LIVE IN". When another Desi is in a predicament, and if I can help you, I will try to help you. If you are wrong, then, I will try to get you on the straight and narrow. If you are in a predicament, in such a state that you are now in, I will try and help you, because, right in front of me I have a poster that says

" I EXPECT TO PASS THROUGH LIFE BUT ONCE. IF, THEREFORE, THERE CAN BE ANY KINDNESS I CAN SHOW, OR ANY GOOD THING THAT I CAN DO TO ANY FELLOW BEING, LET ME DO IT NOW, AND NOT DEFER OR NEGLECT IT, AS I SHALL NOT PASS THIS WAY AGAIN"

SECONDly I came to know, that, when people take up a work assignment in the middle east, they will permit to keep their children up to a certain age and then, they will request that they leave as they are minors no more and will have to leave the country for good. When this happens, the parents, who are affluent, such as you are, try and provide them a haven to move into.
So the Parents try and seek immigration for the sake of their children to another country, such as Europe or to Canada, for higher education for their children and also settlement. Most of the times, they find that they do not have suitable position here or the current employment is not so lucrative to jump ship and suffer from here on.
I see that you were in this country in May of 2005. You do have a time frame within which you have to move in, say two years, after which, if you have not filled in the returning Immigrant forms, you will be sent back. The number of days that you were in Canada can be kept track of.with the link provided here with.
If your daughter 'turns 18', after she finishes her grade 12, then, you can certainly come back to Canada and see her settle down 'comfortably' in her education and return back to Dubai. According to statistics, one third of the children, do not have one parent or both. NOW, there comes a time in life, that you have to sever ties with your children, and some times for their good, and here in I see a parent doing the best he can to better the child's future. And being in such a situation, when you are seeking a way out and find that it is not that simple a solution, and seek a little help from some people who are, from your own clan, and find them decimating you, in public, I felt, that I can step in here and see how you can go about it in your own way and help them get a better future, which is all that you can do from here on.

If at a later date, or during the ensuing two years, if you do find a suitable opening, or a partner to get yourself into a profitable business, then surely do return, and set your self up, and provide some employment to a few of your own clan, and forget that you ever asked this question here on this website. What you generate as income there, in the next two will be sufficient to get you into a decent set up here till retirement.

Don't forget there is a great future for you and your children here. We need you and so do your children. Good luck in the Future, one that you will make from now on.

This will enable you to calculate the number of days that you have accumulated in the past four years.

http://services3.cic.gc.ca/rescalc/resCalcStartNew.do?&lang=en


Freddie.

P.S. I will be posting here under another response to another person,
that might also interest you in deciding your future.



son-of-india   
Member since: Nov 04
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Location: india

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-09-06 23:40:56

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How to keep my immigrants' status alive w/o staying for 3 years in canada ?
Hi, my name is Ashok, living in Dubai. Last year in May 2005 I landed in Toront with my family to stamp the visa.

After visiting there, I dont think we as whole family may mograte to Canada as I dont think it's feasible for me to begin my career allover again. However, we intend sending our chikdren to pursue their education :down:





THIS IS NOTHING BUT CHEATING WITH CANADA.....DO U THINK ANY COUNTRY WOULD OFFER ANY DAMN FACILITY TO YOU.....WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ......IT'S IMMIGRANT LIKE WHO SPOILS THE CHANCES OF OTHER WOULD BE IMMIGRANTS.....PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE IN CREATING BAD IMPRESSION OF INDIANS.......YOU DONT DESERVE TO STAY IN DUBAI TOO.....BETTER YOU RETURN BACK TO INDIA ......AND STOP SPOILING THE CHANCES OF OTHER GENUINE IMMIGRANTS...WHO ARE IN WAITING QUE...OR WHO ARE ALREADY IN CANADA:cuss: :down:



BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-06 00:06:32

Quote:
Originally posted by Ashokved

After visiting there, I dont think we as whole family may mograte to Canada as I dont think it's feasible for me to begin my career allover again. However, we intend sending our chikdren to pursue their education.




I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you posted this naively with your family's best interests at heart. Either that or you're misinformed, because we don't really allow "indirect" advice on Canadiandesi, that's not the purpose of the forum.

I'm sure you can also understand the anger at your post from someone who is currently waiting in queue for his immigration to come through because he wants to come to Canada and start a new life. To this person, your application was nothing more than an unncessary bottleneck that delayed his processing.

Regardless, if this is what you intend to do, why not send your kids on a student visa? Isn't that the right way to do it if you don't see yourself immigrating? You may end up shelling out more dough, but at least you're not abusing the system and setting the right example for your kids. Not to mention the fact that you'll be free of the visa-maintenance stress that you're burdened with now.



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Janmeja   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 313
Location: hubbards NS

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-09-06 07:11:24

I Agree with every one .Ashok you need to decide what you want, you cant have one leg in each boat and expect to be stable. i know dubai has a lot of moneyu to offer but thay will NEVER except you as a citizen. you will always be a mercy of their vims and fancies. here is acountry that is giving you first class staus from day one and you want to cheat it. we have all started all over again that was the deal we excepted from the day we applied . so think again.
all you need to do is work hard and yopull give your childeren abetter life and more important astable one .

its such awaist of time for the immigration department to let you ppl come , there may have been another family better deserving who lost its place because of you . the idea of immigration is that we increace the population here and thus the economy florishes.





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