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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-08 13:33:43

of course, I am not against the OP from coming to Canada, but just wanted him to be aware of the shortcomings (esp. for his situation) in Canada.
I think SanjeevM put it very aptly.
Also it is common knowledge that the more aged you are the more difficulty that you will face in assimilating.
The OP can first try coming alone and seeing if this great country is to his expectation and then decide later to bring his family etc.. This will be a prudent move.
For every 5 sucess stories in Canada, there is atleast one failure story in Canada. The OP should be aware of that.
I guess we have had a very fair amount of discussion in this matter and I long to hear what the OP feels / has decided about it.

IRock : You have not told us the field you are in and the position that you were in India before moving . Also Age plays a major role in deciding your assimilation to the Canadian society

Hope this helps

Peace


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Iknownothing   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 429
Location: Ohio

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-08 14:03:17



What is wrong if someone enjoys doing manual labour work or customer service work? Do you know that Plumbers and Electricians make more money than I can ever dream of making? DO you know that Registered Massage Therapists make $37 per hour??

Construction Superintendents and Project managers bring in over 100K per year.

The issue of immigrants getting jobs in their field is very multi-faceted and is not as simple as just "its racism" or whatever.




MR,

Nothing is wrong in doing manual labour work, its just I would want a little more comfort in my life....:). Moreover I did work hard to get the education so that I can have that comfort during my 'working years' and later.

Money and success are very subjective. $37 may mean a lot to someone and nothing to a lot of other people. I had a contractual position in Toronto that paid me 35 an hour and trust you me, I was anything but satisfied....I always felt that I am wasting the prime of my life making that kind of money. So I did what I had to do...got my passport and drove down south...:)

And regarding your comment that immigrants not getting jobs is not 'just racism'. I find it some kind of unexplained arrogance about not recognizing forgein education. As if the network protocols that someone studied in India are somehow different and substandard when it comes to a 'Canadian' network or the syntax of C++ is actually taught in some other language.



morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-08 06:36:27

Quote:
Originally posted by Iknownothing


What is wrong if someone enjoys doing manual labour work or customer service work? Do you know that Plumbers and Electricians make more money than I can ever dream of making? DO you know that Registered Massage Therapists make $37 per hour??

Construction Superintendents and Project managers bring in over 100K per year.

The issue of immigrants getting jobs in their field is very multi-faceted and is not as simple as just "its racism" or whatever.


MR,

Nothing is wrong in doing manual labour work, its just I would want a little more comfort in my life....:). Moreover I did work hard to get the education so that I can have that comfort during my 'working years' and later.

Money and success are very subjective. $37 may mean a lot to someone and nothing to a lot of other people. I had a contractual position in Toronto that paid me 35 an hour and trust you me, I was anything but satisfied....I always felt that I am wasting the prime of my life making that kind of money. So I did what I had to do...got my passport and drove down south...:)

And regarding your comment that immigrants not getting jobs is not 'just racism'. I find it some kind of unexplained arrogance about not recognizing forgein education. As if the network protocols that someone studied in India are somehow different and substandard when it comes to a 'Canadian' network or the syntax of C++ is actually taught in some other language.



My comments were not directed to you about manual work, but towards TK.

My comments regarding salaries of various occupations was simply to show that people who do manual labour, or work with their hands rather than in an office position also make good money. Again this was not directed at you.

do you find arrogance in my words..or what is out here? I didnt get it from your post.

Thanks.


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ashbamor   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 60
Location: WEB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-08 09:04:01

hi all


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ashbamor   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 60
Location: WEB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-08 09:07:35

Quote:
Originally posted by sanjeevm

Assumtion: OP is coming to Canada just with the basic money which is required as the 'settlement fund' and not with lot of money like $100K/++ after selling his house/car/shares/stocks etc.etc. in India.

Hi,
I could not resist to contribute my 2 cents.

You can definitely live a decent life (may not be a decent lifestyle) even with a family income of 60K/Year.



"Kahan aake rukne the raaste; kahan mod tha use bhool ja,
Woh jo mil gaya, use yaad rakh; jo nahin mila, use bhool ja,
Woh jo tere naseeb ki baarishen; kisi aur chhatt pe baras gayin,
Dil-e-be-khabar, meri baat maan; use bhool ja, use bhool ja."

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This is what I have to really decide upon. Whether to land with 10K or with 150 - 200K?

Will it really help if I have the additional moolah with me?


Very well said............... SanjeevM-------------abt the shero-shayari


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irock   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 344
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-08 09:10:30

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan


Also it is common knowledge that the more aged you are the more difficulty that you will face in assimilating.



hard to believe, but 100% true fact……

Quote:
The OP can first try coming alone and seeing if this great country is to his expectation and then decide later to bring his family etc.. This will be a prudent move.


don’t agree with this. To stay in the ocean, you have to feel it thoroughly & for that you have to jump into it. Just dipping your feet & imagining the feel is not called TRYING. Had a friend working for Indian government, who kept 3 months leave to come to Canada on PR. The plan was to try to get some good job first before calling the family & winding up everything in India. Believe me when I tell you guys, he was not giving his 100% efforts for getting settled here & everytime at the back of his mind he had a secured feeling about position & things in India. Finally at the end of 2-1/2 months, after seeing all the worth seeing places went back to India. The whole thing just ended up as a vacation. Don’t forget guys “NEED IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION”

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For every 5 sucess stories in Canada, there is atleast one failure story in Canada. The OP should be aware of that.


Same in India or in that matter anywhere in the world….

Quote:
I guess we have had a very fair amount of discussion in this matter and I long to hear what the OP feels / has decided about it.


me too….

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IRock : You have not told us the field you are in and the position that you were in India before moving . Also Age plays a major role in deciding your assimilation to the Canadian society


I am a CAD/CAM Technician & was in the same position in India for 6 years. I am 29 years old for your information. I think anyone within 20-35 yrs of age won’t find it much difficult in assimilating in this culture, the only thing is POSITIVE ATTITUDE




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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-08 09:33:48

Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain

I think there is a perception that unless your a doctor, engineer lawyer (or now IT Professional), then you are no one and will never truly succeed in a career.

What is wrong if someone enjoys doing manual labour work or customer service work? Do you know that Plumbers and Electricians make more money than I can ever dream of making? DO you know that Registered Massage Therapists make $37 per hour??
Construction Superintendents and Project managers bring in over 100K per year.
The issue of immigrants getting jobs in their field is very multi-faceted and is not as simple as just "its racism" or whatever.




I generaly donot try to pick upon anyone but just wanted to convey that the above was a very irresponsible statement.
No one likes to be in a manual labour job or even in a CSR position. It is only that these positions are filled mostly by qualified professional people who canot get a professional job and use these kind of jobs as transitional / put food on the table.
Do you know how hard these jobs can be and how they can put tremendous mental and psycological stress upon professional, qualified immigrants?
Yes. I know that Registered massage therapists earn $37 per hour and doctors can make $200 an hour in Canada. But the question is, how are the barriers for foreign trained doctors to get certified in Canada and how easy will it be for an immigrant who is a registered massage therapist (first we have to see the cost) to find a job that will pay $37 an hour? Yesh. Plumbers make $30 or $40 + an hour but will a DGM of a company learn the plumbing course in Canada, get certified, get customers and do the plumbing of a toilet?
These are the things that are of main concern.
Putting a blanket statement does not give all the facts..

Hope this clears some clouds...

Peace


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