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My 2 cents
I am IT professional and have worked 2 years in India, 2.5 years in USA. I had hard time to settle in Canada even with USA experience. After 1.5 month of labor job in Canada, I'd decided that I am not going to do labor job. I've enough funds for survive in Canada. So, I'll use it for getting entry into my field. I did co-op and volunteer job for 3 months. I was driving 40 km one way for volunteer job. After total 5 months effort, I didn't find job. I spent 2 months at home for looking for job and giving interview. One day I was tired and decided to start labor job part time. Firs day, I was ready to go for labor job and fortunately phone rang and got an opportunity to appear in interview. I went for an interview and was succeed and got an offer in two weeks. Started with entry level job [40K] and reached more than 70K and doing well. [If you want to grow and save money, you have to spend for right efforts.]
But now, I've applied for Canadian citizenship and planning for going back to India after citizenship.
Why?
- Do not want to give 100% Canadian Culture to my children?
- Do not want to spend 1/2 year in snow / winter.
- Do not want to spend number of years to pay mortgage of house.
- My wife and me both have to work. Do not wish to keep children in baby sitting. I can't effort.
- Can not effort bie to help my wife for home work.
- No Job guarantee and hard to reach management level
- Do not wish to do job for whole life
- Do not want to go for grocery
- Have my own home in India and I invested some money in land
- Have enough funds to live in upper middle class in India
- Want to try to success in business [I know it is hard in India. But without giving exam nobody can pass/fail.]
- Like Indian food test and want to enjoy Indian festivals
What I'll miss/dislike in India?
- Canadian traffic sense
- Canadian public and govt. services
- Canada - Fresh air
- Can’t stay away from social problem in India
This is good journey for me. It helped me to grow in financial status. I want to live in upper middle class without headache of mortgage. I learned lot of different things which I am planning to utilize in India.
I hope my personal view may help few guys to take decision for migrating to Canada.
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Success is Never Ending and Failure is Never Final.
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 01-08-08 18:21:01
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Originally posted by rajcanada
You should also try to contact who would be in a similar field as you. You should know that your Indian degree may not be recognized and you may have to do the equivalency here in Canada.
I would honestly beg the OP to follow Raj's advise. You may be even surprised to find that professions that you had never imagined would do good in Canada, actually might do well in Canada. So try to find a Desi who has a similar set up as you and try to find out how he rose up in Canada.
In the profession that I am, I have been trying to move up for the past 5 1/2 years but hhave not even able to get a decent break. In the past 5 1/2 years, I would have sent thousnad's of resumes but only a handful of interviews came up and only one offered me a job with a salary of around $13.75 an hour, a mere 25 cents more than what I am earning. I have seen so many desi's in Architecture doing even worse than how I am doing and hence I have to take comfort in that.
On the Radio, I heard that the average starting salary for Canadians finishing a degree course from Canada is 40K ($19.23 an hour).
So what I am effectively trying to convey is that if you fall under some catagory that is not needed in Canada, it would be very hard for you to get a good break unless you change professions but after 45 years of age, business may be the only option left for you.
Hope this helps
Peace
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I am a Gents and not a Ladies.
TK, you are one of reason I visit CD and you don't disappoint. You always try to give a fair comment and please continue that.
If I had read this post before I came to Canada, at least I wouldn't have wasted my savings while I was searching for the right job. I rarely see consistent posts warning future immigrants of the ground realities. Bravo!!
This is a very good reference thread for future immigrants to evaluate their priorities based on positive and not so positive experiences.
Good luck everyone and have a relaxing happy long weekend.
Thanks
Manoj
Positive attitutde.....hmmm....let me ask you few questions, answer them very very honestly (at least to yourself):
* Have you ever washed dishes in your home?
* Have you ever cleaned the whole house without the help of a Bai?
* Have you ever cleaned bathrooms and toilet seats?
* Are you the person who would die hungry but not eat any frozen food?
* Have you ever cooked breakfast or do you enjoy cooking?
* How much are you habitual and/or dependent on others for your day to day work?
* Are you a kind of 'father' who has given 'Khulli Chhutti' to your daughter as far her friends/outings/parties are concerned or are you a father who 'does not want to listen' any crap from your daughter (yes, sometimes, its going to be a practical problem, I am telling you when she will be exposed to 'Canadian' culture and friends). You should have patience and skill to deal with a Canadian Teenage daughter.
* If I put you to work (just for 6 months) with the call centre agents (18-25 years old) and your supervisor 'may be' a single mother, 23 who has gracefully graduated from her high school and she 'may be' living with her second boyfriend because her kid's dad was even worse than her first boyfriend but he(dad) is still in touch with her and visits her sometimes to see the kid and take him(kid) to Wonderland or a day picnic, will you or will you not feel even for a second that OMG, what kind of culture is this? OR I know far better than my supervisor, she is just a kiddd and I had 50 people working under me in India like her? OR why did I come here? Am I supposed to do all these small jobs? I am not fresh 'high school graduate'?
No issues at all on any of the points raised above.
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ashbamor
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 05-08-08 09:43:13
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Originally posted by ashbamor
No issues at all on any of the points raised above.
Then you are the most fit to come to Canada. I am sure that with that kind of mentality you will suceed in Canada for sure. Canada needs people like this to immigrate.
Welcome to Canada!
Peace
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I am a Gents and not a Ladies.
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No issues at all on any of the points raised above.
Good for you. Note that you will not find many successful desis here so most of the comments will be from people who are at closer to the other end of the spectrum and reflect that reality (as you can see it IS an undeniable,
unpleasant reality for many). For many its not just the professional realm but also the cultural adjustment.
If you still want to come here in spite of all the cons you have heard of here are some tips
Dont settle for the call centre jobs or any jobs which you would not do in India
Do go for what you think you should get. There are a LOT of companies and small businesses who are looking for high calibre people. As a DGM, you have hopefully cultivated the communication skills required to talk to management on a one to one basis...continue to do so when you meet prospective employers. When employers are looking for management cadre they want to see someone who can manage not grovel. They are also looking for someone who can represent their company at that level. There are many admin and management jobs for people with the right experience and attitude. The attitude may be more important.
Do stay away from nay sayers. Not because they are bad people but because they may hold you back at the very times you need to be looking forward. DO not let their experiences guide your expectations...try to figure out what you can do to keep their experiences from hapenning to you.
Do expect things to take time. Bring enough funds(1+yr...10k does not cut it) to prepare for the worst as these funds may be the only thing that keeps you from reaching your goals.
There are many desis here who are accomplished and climbing the ladder in any field. Even in a place like MTL where there is a language issue you will see desis in established positions all over. Entrepreneurs, Senior Management etc.
Yes, at that level, they are a minority. Not everyone has what it takes...the only way to find out if you do have it, is to be here.
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Originally posted by ashbamor
No issues at all on any of the points raised above.
Congratulations!!! You have taken a right step. As TK also mentioned, Canada needs people like you. I am sure you will definitely do wonders here.
Keep Jake's tips in mind, always. If you are planning to migrate this year, try to be here before the snow starts.
All the best!
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