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Originally posted by Fido

It must be slightly open minded ( and educated hence more aware ) people who would come here for all who come here would be ready for the assimilation into the society and its effect on them and their families .

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Microsoft - Which end of the stick do you want today?

A teaser and an introduction from the article ............ I wonder why there's an Islam-o-phobia ............

When we try to bring the ills of a community which harbor because of the community practices we are called 'discriminatory ' ...... But when based upon the community's diktats people commit horrendous crimes against humanity , people wish to term it as one off act of terrorism ..... Can't we see they both are interrelated ............. fundamentalism & terrorism ?

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Four years ago, a group of young Muslim men conspired to send Ottawa a deadly message. Enraged by Canada’s military involvement in Afghanistan, and fuelled by violent jihadi videos, they plotted to storm Parliament Hill and detonate truck bombs in downtown Toronto. The goal was to cause catastrophic damage, cripple the economy and unleash mass carnage.

After lengthy investigations by Canada’s spy agency (CSIS) and the RCMP, involving hundreds of police officers and more than 82,200 intercepted calls, a group of 14 adults and four youths were arrested in the summer of 2006.
The group had two ringleaders - Fahim Ahmad and Zakaria Amara. Together, they led a motley crew from Scarborough and Mississauga that included recent converts, high school dropouts and university students. Included in the mix was a computer programmer who earned six figures, and a school bus driver (who was also the occasional janitor at a Meadowvale mosque.)

Ahmad, a charismatic ideologue whose violent jihadist views attracted the disgruntled and disaffected, was the group’s emir, or religious leader. His right-hand man, the shrewd and calculating Amara, was determined to put Ahmad’s ideology into action. But Amara lost faith in Ahmad, thinking he was more talk than action, and pulled away to lead his own splinter group. Quickly pushing ahead, he built a remote-controlled detonator and ordered three tonnes of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.

The investigation was capped by an elaborate sting operation, involving the delivery of an inert substance disguised as fertilizer. It ended with tactical units, armed with submachine guns, swooping in and making the first in a series of arrests. Dramatic takedowns across the city ensued, resulting in 18 suspects, one as young as 15, being charged.
Security at the Brampton court, where they first appeared, looked like something from a movie set: helicopters whirling above, police snipers on the roof and machinegun-toting officers on the ground. Canada had busted an alleged terror cell.

But many were skeptical of the role played by two RCMP-paid infiltrators, suspicious they had been agent provocateurs who had goaded the accused and fuelled the plots. Some also dismissed the suspects as a bunch of bravado-filled but bumbling incompetents who were not capable of carrying out their plans. Years of publication bans, which shrouded parts of the government’s landmark case, did little to ease skepticism.

The case - the first homegrown cell in Canada charged under the anti-terrorism legislation - moved through the courts at a glacial pace, bogged down by numerous pre-trial motions. Four adults and three youths had charges against them stayed - in some cases, after having spent many months in solitary confinement. Seven adults pleaded guilty, including Ahmad and Amara. Of the remaining accused, only four chose to fight their charges at trial - all were convicted.

Finally, a jury delivered its decision in the case of final two accused, making it the first Canadian jury to deliver a verdict in a terrorism case and marking the final chapter of the Toronto 18 saga.

This series examines what happened - and why.

Read .. http://www3.thestar.com/static/toronto18/index.html

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Originally posted by DesiTiger
I see two major problems here:

1. None of these guys have anything in common, save for the fact that they are Muslims. They belong to different cultural and ethnic backgrounds and have never been directly affected by any wars in Afghanistan or elsewhere. Why then would they plot to unleash acts of terror in the very country they call home? Because these hypocrite bastards are "Canadian" only when it suits them. At all other times and for all intents and purposes, they are one with their suffering "Muslim Brothers"

2. This idiotic attitude of "not wanting to hurt muslim feelings" as "not all Muslims are like that" is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard (anybody reminded of the Kangress crap we have all grown up on?). Does anybody really believe that 18 people were plotting to blow up Toronto and not one person in their immediate friends / family / community had an idea as to what was going on? If the Muslim community cannot police their own, they are just as guilty as those who actually commit the acts of terrorism. It is not the case of "a few bad apples" anymore. The questions is not if all Muslims are Terrorists. The question is why are all terrorists Muslims?

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Fido.

This Ice Cube dude sympathises with iragis and afghanis getting killed in the war more than the ppl killed in 9/11 just because they are his 'MUSLIM brethren'....and

most of all he think 9/11 was an inside job...what an idiotic fanatic.....i guess FAITH BLINDS PERCEPTION in a way....poor ice cube....open your blindfolds man

I am not being an anti-muslim at all....my best friend is a muslim....but I am just pointing at your BIAS !!

Do your research and try to find if those websites that say 9/11 was an inside job are credible or not??

Just because the website has some Islamic connection doesnt mean its credible.....there are a lot of hatemongers spreading hatred just in the name of faith..be it muslim, hindu, christians etc dude