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KumarM   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 02:53:43

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/single-card-diaspora-pm-363

"Inaugurating the ninth Pravasi Bharatiya Divas here Saturday, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the overseas citizen of India (OCI) and the person of Indian origin (PIO) cards would be merged into a single facility to simplify visa-free entry and participation of Indian diaspora in business and other activities in India."



kulb   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 11:33:36

Although it is a commendable step in the right direction, I wonder what this will mean for existing PIO card holders. Will it be a simple process to convert them to OCI Cards? Will existing PIO cards continue to be valid until their expiry? There are going to be a lot of questions as they finalize the details.



Gapodi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 12:00:38

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Originally posted by kulb

Although it is a commendable step in the right direction, I wonder what this will mean for existing PIO card holders. Will it be a simple process to convert them to OCI Cards? Will existing PIO cards continue to be valid until their expiry? There are going to be a lot of questions as they finalize the details.


This is ridiculous. Many US citizens don't want the OCI card because of the dual citizenship issue and problems that might arise for security clearance jobs and that's why they opted for the PIO card in the first place. Also the consular access issue. Now they want to make everything into the OCI. Someone mentioned rightfully that Indians will go in hoardes to cancel their PIO cards now. These fools in India don't realize when they have a good thing going. Let's see what they come up with. What a bunch of morons. How many Indians eventually want Indian citizenship back anyways? Nothing like a PIO card - apply for it in the US and get it within 4 weeks and not have to deal with the morons in Delhi. And no worries about consular access or security clearance jobs.


Many people dont want OCI, all that was needed was a long term or life long visa. Why make them go through non sense of OCI procedures.

I am sure they are doing it because soon they will tie OCI to PAN cards and only then you will come to know what really was behind this non sense.

How exactly is having one choice instead of two a commendable step?



kulb   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 12:17:49

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Originally posted by Gapodi

Quote:
Originally posted by kulb

Although it is a commendable step in the right direction, I wonder what this will mean for existing PIO card holders. Will it be a simple process to convert them to OCI Cards? Will existing PIO cards continue to be valid until their expiry? There are going to be a lot of questions as they finalize the details.



How exactly is having one choice instead of two a commendable step?

Many people dont want OCI, all that was needed was a long term or life long visa. Why make them go through non sense of OCI procedures.

I am sure they are doing it because soon they will tie OCI to PAN cards and only then you will come to know what really was behind this non sense



You are saying "all that was needed was a life long visa". Buddy, OCI is a "life long visa". So then you are contradicting yourself. By the way, it is great of our native country to offer one, which other country offers a life long visa??

If you are so interested in acquiring a visa every time, you can go get an entry visa every 5 years.

Although it is hypothetical, there is nothing wrong with linking OCI to PAN if it were to ever happen. If you make income in a country, you got to pay your fair share of taxes too.



Gapodi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 12:23:22

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Originally posted by kulb

Quote:
Originally posted by Gapodi

Quote:
Originally posted by kulb

Although it is a commendable step in the right direction, I wonder what this will mean for existing PIO card holders. Will it be a simple process to convert them to OCI Cards? Will existing PIO cards continue to be valid until their expiry? There are going to be a lot of questions as they finalize the details.



How exactly is having one choice instead of two a commendable step?

Many people dont want OCI, all that was needed was a long term or life long visa. Why make them go through non sense of OCI procedures.

I am sure they are doing it because soon they will tie OCI to PAN cards and only then you will come to know what really was behind this non sense



You are saying "all that was needed was a life long visa". Buddy, OCI is a "life long visa". So then you are contradicting yourself. By the way, it is great of our native country to offer one, which other country offers a life long visa??

If you are so interested in acquiring a visa every time, you can go get an entry visa every 5 years.

Although it is hypothetical, there is nothing wrong with linking OCI to PAN if it were to ever happen. If you make income in a country, you got to pay your fair share of taxes too.



Yeah but if all i need is a long term visa why call it overseas citizen of India?
Do you know what India's position on consular acccess to OCI's in India if they are some trouble?
I fully agree with paying fair share of taxes but if I dont want to do anything with that country other than visiting it as a visitor, why do I need to go through this nonsense?
Wait till they start harrassing PIOs and OCIs at the customs while leaving the country and thne there will be plenty of posts about babus and their nonesensical attitudes.



chcool   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 13:21:33

If one is not happy with oci/pio merging, they can continue to be overseas citizens instead of questioning rules and regulations set by India.

People born in India learn to respect rules of the country when they migrate to other country but fail to respect the rules set by mother land.

Shame.



rajcanada   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-01-11 13:24:04

All simple things are being made more complex, confusing and cumbersome. I only wish it becomes a streamlined process and not as messy as they announced surrender certificate.


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