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Posted on: 18-02-11 16:30:56
If its the $$$ that you're trying to save ... the best way would be to get rid of OHIP in the first place.
Lots of $$$ to be saved. Let EVERYBODY buy private insurance AND get rid of OAS, GIS and Allowance for Spouses.
That will allow the govt to cut taxes dramatically.
Then, as you say lets see how many parents want to migrate.
Let this the test case ... where govt gets downsized and no more welfare state.
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Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
I have to agree.. bringing in older generation is a burden to the Canadian system..
I want to see how many parents would migrate if the government would get rid of free health care and old age support all together for people who migrate after age of 55.
More of these parents migrate , the more taxes our and our future generation will pay for supporting these older people..
One of the people i know even had his grand mother age 80 migrate to canada.. can u imagine that
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
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Originally posted by sridharm
When we immigrate it doesn't mean that our family gets to come too. If you love them so much, don't leave them.
This country has turned into a ghetto by bringing in poor quality immigrants.
Excellent threads and very nice inferences !
The Gora people immigrated and built everything for us. Good roads, good computers, good paying jobs (for IT people only), Good hospitals, schools, univ's , shopping centres etc,,
We desi's came last decade and started enjoying everything from day 1.
Now who is more qulaified to bring their parents to this great cold country . Will it be :
1. A sri lankan who pays a snakehead / cheats to come here and apply for fake refugee status? Does 2 labour jobs and earns like 80 K and sponsers his parents ? Same for Punju's
2. A IT professional earning 12-24 lakhs a year in India and coming here and earning 80K to 100 K and sponsering his parents / in laws?
3. A Engineer earning 8-20 lakhs a year in India and unable to get a job in Canada as he is not in IT but then living as securtiy guard / labour and earning $ 12 an hour and unable to sponser his parents?
Think about it. There is no clear cut answer and Desi's are so selfish.
If they do not get a good job, they will complain
If they are not able to sponser their parents, they will complain
if they are not able to get a course in the univ. of their choice, they will complain.
All complain for their own selfish needs only
L&P
If its the $$$ that you're trying to save ... the best way would be to get rid of OHIP in the first place.
Lots of $$$ to be saved. Let EVERYBODY buy private insurance AND get rid of OAS, GIS and Allowance for Spouses.
That will allow the govt to cut taxes dramatically.
Then, as you say lets see how many parents want to migrate.
Let this be the test case ... where govt gets downsized and no more welfare state.
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Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
I have to agree.. bringing in older generation is a burden to the Canadian system..
I want to see how many parents would migrate if the government would get rid of free health care and old age support all together for people who migrate after age of 55.
More of these parents migrate , the more taxes our and our future generation will pay for supporting these older people..
One of the people i know even had his grand mother age 80 migrate to canada.. can u imagine that
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
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Originally posted by sridharm
When we immigrate it doesn't mean that our family gets to come too. If you love them so much, don't leave them.
This country has turned into a ghetto by bringing in poor quality immigrants.
Excellent threads and very nice inferences !
The Gora people immigrated and built everything for us. Good roads, good computers, good paying jobs (for IT people only), Good hospitals, schools, univ's , shopping centres etc,,
We desi's came last decade and started enjoying everything from day 1.
Now who is more qulaified to bring their parents to this great cold country . Will it be :
1. A sri lankan who pays a snakehead / cheats to come here and apply for fake refugee status? Does 2 labour jobs and earns like 80 K and sponsers his parents ? Same for Punju's
2. A IT professional earning 12-24 lakhs a year in India and coming here and earning 80K to 100 K and sponsering his parents / in laws?
3. A Engineer earning 8-20 lakhs a year in India and unable to get a job in Canada as he is not in IT but then living as securtiy guard / labour and earning $ 12 an hour and unable to sponser his parents?
Think about it. There is no clear cut answer and Desi's are so selfish.
If they do not get a good job, they will complain
If they are not able to sponser their parents, they will complain
if they are not able to get a course in the univ. of their choice, they will complain.
All complain for their own selfish needs only
L&P
Hi all,
Here's a suggestion, please feel free to provide your views on this:
My husband sent an e-mail to Honorable Jason Kenney, minister of immigration with the following e-mail:
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Good day! My name is __________and I am a Canadian Citizen. I migrated to Canada from ________ some 7.5 years back and have since made Canada my home country.
I recently read some articles about reducing the amount of family class sponsorship applications by 5% as parents and grandparents fall right at the end of the line. I understand the reasoning behind that and also agree that the government might have to fund their Health costs if and when immigrants in this class arrive in Canada.
My suggestion is to create a bridge. Is there a way that another class of immigrants be created as "Dependants" of Canadian nationals? Parents, grandparents and other family members who immigrate under this category should be allowed to live and work in Canada as regular permanent residents, but they would not have access to government funding or health benefits, i.e. they would have to get their own health coverage independently. Their regular Permanent Resident applications can take the normal time to process, but with this option, we would get the following advantages:
1. Families will be re-united.
2. Individuals may work in Canada, therefore generate revenue for the government in terms of tax.
3. Individuals will definitely spend money to live here. More tax income.
4. Provided that all dependant class immigrants purchase their own health insurance plans to cover themselves for the medium term that the Government Health does not cover them, this will generate income potential for health insurance companies.
5. More income potential for insurance companies means new health insurance products being rolled out, which means more potential employment opportunities.
This is my personal suggestion for a win-win solution. The Immigration Department will need to review and implement this in a manner that it benefits the whole system and helps families of all immigrants to be re-united. I know of many countries (even Third-World countries like Kenya) that offer the "Dependant" status to many individuals living in the country. If this bridge works, then it will postpone a big burden of processing backlog without hurting the system in any way. Perhaps I base my suggestion on limited knowledge of the process, but if you could offer this for review to a team of specialists who may be able to brainstorm the idea, then I am sure a proper format can be created that would benefit all.
I too am an immigrant and have placed an application to sponsor my parents to come and live with me. I am a citizen of Canada and I am offering a suggestion with the hope that it helps all immigrants reunite with their families much faster without creating any burden to the Government. Your kind consideration to this matter would be highly appreciated.
Yours with respect,
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Originally posted by Simrank
My suggestion is to create a bridge. Is there a way that another class of immigrants be created as "Dependants" of Canadian nationals? Parents, grandparents and other family members who immigrate under this category should be allowed to live and work in Canada as regular permanent residents, but they would not have access to government funding or health benefits, i.e. they would have to get their own health coverage independently.
I am a fifth and eigth generation Canadian (fifth on mother's side, eighth on my father's side) and I agree with your idea. It would allow individuals to be reuinited with their family if they wish to care for their elderly relatives here in Canada without burdening the tax payer funded health care system.
The poster who is repeatedly stating that newcomers fund the health care system to the benefit of born Canadians is at least partially incorrect. While our country does need immigrants in order to maintain population growth which is necessary with our current economic system, baby boomers (and I am not one, I'm 26!) have paid in to the system for their entire lives. They still may expect more than what they have contributed, and that is a problem, but immigrants even if they held the exact same jobs would typically pay less due to the shorter length of their working career in the country. That is okay, I'm not saying immigrants do not contribute enough, I am just saying unless baby boomers were illegally avoiding paying tax, they have paid over the entire course of their careers.
The existing legislation in Canada makes it impossible to implement a class of citizens who are not covered by the public health care system**. The Canada Health Act of 1984 states that all residents must receive coverage in order for the provinces to recieve the federal portion of health care funding. This is a continuation of the way national health care was set up by the Medical Care Act of 1966 (which introduced national federal funding for provincially administered medical health care ie. care from a doctor or nurse outside of a hospital) and the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act of 1957 (which introduced national federal funding for provincially administered hospital insurance).
Amending the Canada Health Act is far beyond the purview of Minister Kenney.
** The three month waiting period for new immigrants is allowed within the exisitng legislation, and certain groups of people such as Aboriginals and refugees are covered by a federal health insurance plan instead of the provincial insurance plans.
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A vancouver based lawyer/journalist contacted me over my mothers timeline on the trackitt website.
She is doing a major article on this topic.
She has taken my views on this topic and hope she will incorporate the same in her article in a major vancouver based newspaper.
This is a deliberate attempt by the Conservatives to delay the immigration.
The only way you can fix this is voting liberal in the coming election and extracting a promise from your liberal candidate that they will reverse the delay decisions once they come to power.
This is a golden opportunity for you on May 2, 2011.
Use your golden ticket in place of writing to Jason Kenney who is history today but may be he will come back if you do not VOTE.
Call your liberal candidate and spread the news to the liberal party that this is key election issue and they have to take a stand in the party's election manifesto.
Good Luck on your political activism.
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Sunny Leone a true Canadian DESI now back in India !.
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Originally posted by Vandematram
A vancouver based lawyer/journalist contacted me over my mothers timeline on the trackitt website.
She is doing a major article on this topic.
She has taken my views on this topic and hope she will incorporate the same in her article in a major vancouver based newspaper.
This is a deliberate attempt by the Conservatives to delay the immigration.
The only way you can fix this is voting liberal in the coming election and extracting a promise from your liberal candidate that they will reverse the delay decisions once they come to power.
This is a golden opportunity for you on May 2, 2011.
Use your golden ticket in place of writing to Jason Kenney who is history today but may be he will come back if you do not VOTE.
Call your liberal candidate and spread the news to the liberal party that this is key election issue and they have to take a stand in the party's election manifesto.
Good Luck on your political activism.
Heartless” Minister Kenney Cutting Family Class Immigration By 25 Percent
http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=4524
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Originally posted by Vandematram
A vancouver based lawyer/journalist contacted me over my mothers timeline on the trackitt website.
She is doing a major article on this topic.
She has taken my views on this topic and hope she will incorporate the same in her article in a major vancouver based newspaper.
This is a deliberate attempt by the Conservatives to delay the immigration.
The only way you can fix this is voting liberal in the coming election and extracting a promise from your liberal candidate that they will reverse the delay decisions once they come to power.
This is a golden opportunity for you on May 2, 2011.
Use your golden ticket in place of writing to Jason Kenney who is history today but may be he will come back if you do not VOTE.
Call your liberal candidate and spread the news to the liberal party that this is key election issue and they have to take a stand in the party's election manifesto.
Good Luck on your political activism.
This is a perfect example of the insidious nature of third-world immigration. You people have NO RIGHT to even be in Canada. You have NO RIGHT to attempt to extort our leaders in the same way that you have corrupted your own political system in India.
You drove the British out of your country and yet now you invade the homelands of White people everywhere like locusts to selfishly pursue a better life for yourselves. The benefit you receive comes at the expense of White children who do not have a future in their own country.
Let me assure you that you are not wanted in Canada you are not needed in Canada and neither are you welcome here.
The Canadian people were never consulted as to whether or not they wanted massive third-world immigration. This violates our rights under international human rights laws and the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
A genocide complaint has been filed against the Government of Canada on behalf of all White European Canadians and further action will be taken.
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