Dubai or Canada?


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seenimesh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-12-12 15:19:43

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sajeesh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 10:16:09

I would propose one has to experience it to come out with individual experience and keep that with oneself. It helps to grow as an individual and person. I have been to various locations and did stay in each place like Gulf, US, Canada and India. Each offers a different experience. The education in Gulf especially in Indian schools match the same (or maybe better) as in India till the 12th std. That is they are either CBSE or ICSE or in some case state boards of India. However the way a student learns either through mugging or understanding concept is not relevant with the way the system has worked for us. Right now India is the leading country when it comes to the best doctors and engineers and other professions too. Indians as the Chinese have gone, struggled and prospered or learned hard lessons in the process.



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 12:40:48

Patriotism is a good thing but pls do not over do it .

You are stating that mugging = understanding concepts ...Hmmmm ..

If India is producing large number of engineers / scientists , its not because the education system is excellent but because of proportions & population pressure & culture - for every 1 engineer produced there are at least 10 students who have succumbed to the system ..

Best professionals - highly arguable --- Have you ever met the best doctors engineers or CA s from Canada ?? ...Try to compare the best to best and you will understand more .....

Education in Indian Schools in Dubai or other ME countries is similar to what it is in India with teachers lacking dedication -- However the taughts are amongst the better genes for obvious reasons and are most likely to succeed ....

Just because a refinery is producing good product does not mean that the refinery is good - perhaps the raw material is the one which is good and needs less refining .


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crish   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 12:58:57

One thing is clear from the query; that you want to move out (or already out) of India for better life style. I don't think that Dubai offers this life style permanently to you, you cannot enjoy it post retirement. But Canada does, there may not be taxes in Dubai; but the rent is way to high. One more question to ask is how long will the growth becoz of the petro economy last.



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 14:25:58

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Patriotism is a good thing but pls do not over do it .

You are stating that mugging = understanding concepts ...Hmmmm ..

If India is producing large number of engineers / scientists , its not because the education system is excellent but because of proportions & population pressure & culture - for every 1 engineer produced there are at least 10 students who have succumbed to the system ..

Best professionals - highly arguable --- Have you ever met the best doctors engineers or CA s from Canada ?? ...Try to compare the best to best and you will understand more .....

Education in Indian Schools in Dubai or other ME countries is similar to what it is in India with teachers lacking dedication -- However the taughts are amongst the better genes for obvious reasons and are most likely to succeed ....

Just because a refinery is producing good product does not mean that the refinery is good - perhaps the raw material is the one which is good and needs less refining .



Agree with you. Sick of the people/immigrants here admiring education system in India, however rotten it is as we all know.

I work with so-called Computer Engineers from India. I could vouch for the lowest of the low quality among the lot that are here on Projects. Many of whom paid their way to the Southern Indian Engg. colleges and lack all the essential tools that are required at the workplace - mainly communication and interpersonnel skills. Take forever to explain their point of view, which is frustrating at times. Technical skills are merely ok. IITians and IIM people are working alongside me in my present company. They are just 'kitaabi Kidaa'. Succeeding in school and work are two different things.

Visited AIIMS a couple of years ago when my Mom got sick. The Doctors there were less said the better.

Studied in Govt. School myself and know first hand what the dedication of the Teachers were/are.

Canadian, US, and/or Western Engineers, Doctors, and Scientists are doing quite great with their respective education system. Guess what! More inventions and patents here in this part of the world than the quantitatively advantageous Asia. Go figure! No comparison here. Time to get out of the so-called false superiority cocoon, when we all know the ground reality.



sajeesh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 14:39:46

The key factor is experience. May be some of the experience of folks here with doctors in India or engineers not have been good. I haven't been to a lot of doctors here in Canada to assess whether they are top class or not. I am speaking from the experience of my friends who have seen different family physicians or doctors this side of Canada. May be the experience would have been better for other. I am not going to dispute that.

Also it is not a question about patriotism. Many of the companies that have been found in Silicon Valley have founders or co-founders who are from IIT or IIM. So let's not totally use derogatory terms like kitaabi kidaa here. When the president of US or prime minister of Canada itself is saying that good engineers and doctors are not being produced there and we have to encourage talent from outside then we should accept there might be some truth in quality of education here. Rest my case...



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-12-12 14:51:01

Sajeesh,

When they talk about lacking the talent here, doesn't mean these countries are lacking the quality. It's the quantity.

As Fido put it straight - India has the population and the sheer number of (unregulated) educational institutions to its advantage, however low quality they are. There are different set of standards in each country to evaluate the institutions. Maybe, Canada/US has high standards and don't let the low rung institutes to mushroom over like India. India also has a outsourcing advantage. It simply doesn't mean the system is producing high caliber talent, barring a few here and there.

Merely ITTs, RECs, and IIMs don't constitute the broader spectrum.




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