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Posted on: 15-03-12 10:09:37
We can write books on the differences between the education system of Canada and India – the discussion is endless. I think the school education and system is relaxed because they want every kid to have a minimum level of education. After all we also need someone to flip the hamburgers.
If you want to understand the level of University education in Canada, please just talk to any University graduate or someone who is in 3rd year and also talk to someone from Indian University graduate. You will feel the difference. Getting Canadian University degree is not as easy as getting Indian University degree. The real difference in the education system starts from University level.
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A Delhite in Toronto
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Education - not like India or Dubai - if u have small kids u never know what they are doing in school.. I dont like the schooling here... its better in Dubai or India.. atleast u were aware the kids are learning... read more about it.
Medical - govt only gives free consulation and medicines u need to pay for...
The first 4 months after u land here - u are not covered - so if u fall sick u pay or if u visit dental - u pay. Dental not covered. Specialist appointment u get after 4 months most of the time. If u need to see a gynae - wait for 4 months.... unless of course if u know otherwise. This is bad in Canada. So the day u land - its safe to opt for a medical insurance just incase... like I have to pull out a tooth with surgery and it cost me 700 CAD.. + medicines... read more on this too...
Here job postings are quite funny actually - read a simple job posting for a Receptionist - and see the description - u will need to answer phones, be admin, do the books- jack of all trade for a receptionist salaries.
Office timings - be aware - some companies ask u to put it late hours.. u will know when u go for interview - they never tell u in the advert.
Be smart - plan well - then u can survive..
Basically Canada is not a piece of cake whatever people say - u will learn, there will be no help from friends, they all expect u to go thro the same bad phase as they have been.
The problem with us human beings is we tend to take things for granted when we are at a place and only get to highlight the negatives ..... When we were in India we found the ngatives of India , then wehen we came out we realized that there were goodies in India also as we decide to relocate back ....
Medical & Education : You should be happy that you are in Canada . True drugs are not covered , but every thing else is and even if you can't afford the drugs there are Plans like Trillium which cover for you if you are uninsured .
If you are diagnosed with major disease/s , the medicare pays for it ... all the therapy and everything .... I guess one needs to live in the US , unemployed and uninsured to discover the value of this blessing here ....
4 months of non coverage ... Can you back up your info with a link ??? Ontario needs 3 months and then from 1st day you are covered .. Provinces like NS , AB etc cover you from day one with no waiting period ....
Education ..... Again as human beings , we tend to belittle what ever is given to us for free ... I spoke recently with an acquaintance who is 13 yrs old has studies in India , Bahrain , Abu Dhabi and now here and he was all appreciation of the teachers here taking pains to explain doubts & concepts .... The education is there available ....... its up to you as well as to how much you can benefit ..
Lastly for jobs , its your own skill & competence also which dictates how much you are getting ........... Does not mean everyone is on $10/hr jobs or on welfare ..... And yes you have welfare and subsidies unlike elsewhere in case you are not able to do well on your own .... Doubt if you have that in India or the Middle East !!!
What you said seems true but not practically happening.
Medical- Healthcare is free? A big chunk of my tax goes to health Canada. Unless you are not dyeing or in emergency, you will wait,wait.. to get any treatments. Saying that healthcare is free and providing it at the right time are two different things. 5 million people in Canada have no family doctor but they have to pay health tax and they cannot deny it.
Education - It is free up to school level, but 12th grade here is equivalent to 5th grade level in India. Then what is of use if your kid cannot compete in future. Yes, if you are in university then you may buy facilities by paying high tuition fees which you can do in any part of the world. Have you seen foreign students coming to Canada to get school education or research institutes? Most of the students just come here to get entry and education is not their motive. If govt. tell them that they have to return back after education then I doubt that anyone will come. This is one way of generating money to keep the economy going.
I agree that US has many universities which provide high quality education if you are coming for your Masters or PhDs.
I do not agree that skill and education are the only factors to get the job. If that is the case then who will drive the taxi and become drivers.
I do not know a 12th grade in Canada is equivalent to 5th grade in India ... but I have seen a 12th grader here is more practical and has more survival skills required in the world than a graduate from India.
Our primary education is failed one for India as students memorize things they don't understand and lack applied skills .... Same students succeed very well when they move out of India mainly due to motivation they get in new environment.
Just send the 12th grader from here to India and bring 12 grader from India to here and see who will survive.
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Originally posted by Delhite
The real difference in the education system starts from University level.
Really?
That means I can build a multistorey building with foundation built with mud mortar?
I was thinking that your core knowledge you gained in pre-university helps you succeed in university.
It is not a fair comparison. The Canadian education system is meant for Canada – not for India. Here we need only 5% to lead the rest. The University education has a high standard so that only the genuine student can pass that mark. Only those 5% are capable to lead the others and innovate.
In India, you will find in cities, 90% will get the University education and everyone tries to lead others – no one follows. It becomes chaos in the system where everyone is a leader and no one listen to others. To have an efficient system, we need a most optimized process in place and everyone to follow the system.
Even having the 2nd most populous country of the world, what we have given to the world from innovation’s point of view? And please don’t tell me about the Zero and all other stuff.
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A Delhite in Toronto
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Originally posted by web2000
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Originally posted by Delhite
The real difference in the education system starts from University level.
Really?
That means I can build a multistorey building with foundation built with mud mortar?
I was thinking that your core knowledge you gained in pre-university helps you succeed in university.
To be good in academic, you have to be serious and focus. The school and education system plays lesser role than seriousness of the student itself.
This is the only reason we don’t build so many multistory buildings in Canada because we don’t need them. We only need very few and those we can get from born genius or really serious and focused students. If you are serious and focused, you will reach to the top irrespective of you education system. This is the reason that most of the University students in Canada drop out in first and second year. Only the real serious are able to go through. If most of the students will become university degree holder, who will flip the burgers?
The core knowledge you will get because of your hunger of knowledge and not because of the education system. One person can take 10 horses to river but….
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A Delhite in Toronto
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Originally posted by web2000
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Originally posted by Delhite
The real difference in the education system starts from University level.
Really?
That means I can build a multistorey building with foundation built with mud mortar?
I was thinking that your core knowledge you gained in pre-university helps you succeed in university.
You are right. Only few people who gains academic knowledge at per-university goes to University .... as Delhite said the 5%. Others, who likes to make more money than in flipping the burgers choose to swift from academics to more vocational programs. Too many people going to college in India does not mean that their foundation is very strong.
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Originally posted by web2000
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Originally posted by Delhite
The real difference in the education system starts from University level.
Really?
That means I can build a multistorey building with foundation built with mud mortar?
I was thinking that your core knowledge you gained in pre-university helps you succeed in university.
In India almost any one can join in an engineering college ( ofcourse who has money) and become an engineer. There are more than 600 engineering colleges in A.P and virtually any student one who completes 12 class can get an admission. It doesn't mean that their foundation is strong.
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