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Posted on: 06-11-04 09:01:11
My friend,
The grapes r still in my catch !!!
Im debating whether they are really sour or not that is !!!
Kindly reread the post and maybe u ll change ur mind slightly only if u r flexible.
Manasvi.
mercury6, a Senior Desi You say that I am "whining" and that I should rather write about my experiences in the "success stories" column. You would do well to read my posting...... and then decide whether I am whining.
My guess is - you probably didn't read it entirely. I was only addressing my message to my countrymen (esp those from back home, who spend countless hours griping, complaining and showering their choicest abuses on Canada.
Let's face it - We have come here in pursuit of riches, fame, status, the future of our children. The so called "perfect" place to live is an utopian concept, and besides we are not here to reform Canadian society. The evolution of society here (as everywhere) has taken place over many years, and our mission here is not to change what is in place. It might sound hard to accept - We have to evolve ourselves into acceptable individuals in our pursuit of success. Besides to compare Canada to India, complain, take a negative attitude, become a defeatist.......will take one nowhere.
Let us have the courage to change ourselves (and things around us) to the extent we can. And let us have the courage to accept things (and situations) that we CAN NOT change. Let us do our bit, help each other, pray to the lord for HIS blessings and strive to achieve success!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
India s ppulation is 1 000 000 000 and maybe more .Out of that a minuscule 50k to 75k come to Canada annually.Thats .000005 % .
Actually the correct number of landings is closer to 25k.
Why do more people not immigrate from India? Have you considered the costs / financial resources aspect?
Processing fees (for a family of 4) = $550 + $550 + $150 + $150 = $1,400. Translated into Indian rupees, this is about Rs 50,400 and has to be paid upfront. Furthermore, there is the risk that this money will not be refunded if the application is rejected!
Next the potential immigrant has to be prepared to pay $975 + $975 = $1950 as RPRF prior to the issue of the immigrant visa. This is another Rs 70,200.
In other words in terms of fees itself, one has to be prepared to pay Rs 120,600.
The family of 4 also has to be able to show proof of funds in the amount of about $17,500 prior to being able to immigrate. That is equivalent to about Rs 630,000
India has a per capita income of US $600 a year (which translates to about Rs 30,000). As you can see a significant part of the 1 billion Indian population would not make the cut from this statistic itself….
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Ok agreed not all are eligible to reach Canada . Say 15% of the above (very rough estimate ) are eligible. That pronounces 150 million. Out of these 15 crores even if 10% think of arriving Canada (ie 15 million) GTAs estimate for 2020 wud be over by now !!!
Does 15% of India’s population have about Rs 750,000 in cash or liquid assets per family to be able to immigrate to Canada?
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
The reality is that a majority of well earning professionals who are settled in India (Doctors /CA s / Businessman) DO NOT consider the Canadian option . They are comfortable and settled in India in their own habitat and wudnt wish to come over . Satisfied and glowing .
Its a small 50k - 75 k which thinks of adventuring out . These are the people who are professionals , know that they cannot reach the top (in other words average) and denounce the corruption ,pollution and over-population and find Canada as an option for restarting their lives . They want a good infrastructure / corruption free society which they eventually get but they risk to lose their professional identity in bargain.
You might consider yourself average.
While its true that many well settled professionals in India would not consider venturing out, there are also a lot that are willing to take a risk for the higher standard of living / quality of life that the west has to offer. To suggest that people who immigrate are average professionals who conveniently raise the issue of a lower quality of life in India is myopic!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
No1 is right , no1 is wrong each have their own parameters and judgments .But its wrong to say that a large number of Indians want to come to Canada after knowing the realities . Entry to Canada is not difficult .
True. Each have their own parameters and judgments. However, when you generalize that people who come to Canada are average professionals who wouldn’t get anywhere in their professions, that’s an unfair statement.
Not many people are willing to toss away their immigration papers when they have the opportunity to come here. You are one of those people, you came to Canada a year ago, you are very negative about Canada, yet you still want to pursue the possibility of coming here – as you have suggested in your previous and other posts……..at the same time you want to discourage other people from doing the same……..
You suggest that people would not consider immigrating to Canada if they knew the 'reality'. You know the 'reality' know, after your one week visit and the 'opinion polls' that you conducted on Toronto's streets. Yet in your previous post you say that 'the grapes are still in your catch (sic)'
So you are still considering coming back to Canada even though you 'know the reality'?
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
As 2 why dont they pack and go back - Im sure there is a significant number which does that .But the majority hang around and resettle themselves but for the inherent human nature of "settling down" & being hopeful that something will eventually come up and they accept it . Also ridicule back home may be another factor which stops ppl from packing their bags . WHY THEY COMPLAIN is coz their "consultant-misportrayed-dreams " crash in the first month .
Manasvi.
'Consultant-misportrayed-dreams'. You shouldn't have any of those since you have already made a visit here and had a chance to observe so many people ranging from the 'sad faces at Nathan Philips square' to the people in the shopping malls. Based on that 'research' that you had done, you had very authoritatively claimed that 80% of professionals were working at Tim Horton's in Canada.......
Now you claim that 'the grapes are still in your catch (sic)'. One would have thought that the 'consultant-misportrayed-dreams' would have 'crashed' by now!
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Orginally posted by mercury6
Why dont you post your details in the success stories section
"instead of whining in a way that is not going to help anyone?"
In quotes above...........the pot calling the kettle black?
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Orginally posted by STHIRU18
mercury6, a Senior Desi You say that I am "whining" and that I should rather write about my experiences in the "success stories" column. You would do well to read my posting...... and then decide whether I am whining.
My guess is - you probably didn't read it entirely. I was only addressing my message to my countrymen (esp those from back home, who spend countless hours griping, complaining and showering their choicest abuses on Canada.
Let's face it - We have come here in pursuit of riches, fame, status, the future of our children. The so called "perfect" place to live is an utopian concept, and besides we are not here to reform Canadian society. The evolution of society here (as everywhere) has taken place over many years, and our mission here is not to change what is in place. It might sound hard to accept - We have to evolve ourselves into acceptable individuals in our pursuit of success. Besides to compare Canada to India, complain, take a negative attitude, become a defeatist.......will take one nowhere.
Let us have the courage to change ourselves (and things around us) to the extent we can. And let us have the courage to accept things (and situations) that we CAN NOT change. Let us do our bit, help each other, pray to the lord for HIS blessings and strive to achieve success!
All good thoughts.
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
Processing fees (for a family of 4) = $550 + $550 + $150 + $150 = $1,400. Translated into Indian rupees, this is about Rs 50,400 and has to be paid upfront. Furthermore, there is the risk that this money will not be refunded if the application is rejected!
Next the potential immigrant has to be prepared to pay $975 + $975 = $1950 as RPRF prior to the issue of the immigrant visa. This is another Rs 70,200.
if this figure is stopping applicant from putting up their immigration application. Only prinicpal applicant is required to pay processing fee of $500. If your application get approved and recieve medical examination clearance balance can be paid after medical along with passport and landing fee.
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