WHY ARE THE DESIS ALWAYS COMPLAINING AND GRIPING (READ "WHY DON'T THEY PACK THEI


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my2cents   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 260
Location: Miss, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-10-04 16:15:10

I would rather have people complain and gripe than take a gun and shoot people. IN that way CD serves an important purpose in allowing people to let their steam out and recharge.


How you feel about Canada or India or life in general is coloured by your personal situation. Today gripers can at some point become Canada's biggest supporters. But that can only come about if they find the resources, support, or sympathy to turn around their personal situation. In its own way the CD site helps people to do that.


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jago_desi   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 591
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-10-04 17:02:55

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw

Quote:
Orginally posted by Interceptor

Canada is rich country and has lot of natural resources, but still people are not happy ..why?

India has lots of problem but still people are Happy and people are glowing in all aspects why?



Hmm......if that were the case (people are glowing in India, unhappy in Canada), why do people want to immigrate from India to Canada?




Simple, woh chaiye joe apne pass nahi hoe. Aab dhukh bhi dekh leayte hae. India mein sukh millega woh toe paka hae.


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STHIRU18   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 103
Location: MISSISSAUGA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-11-04 21:59:51

In terceptior, a Senior Desi had some interesting comments to make, and I thought it fit to respond.

"It seems STHIRU18 was born and brought up in Canada.

Do u know culture of canada?

Then go and visit some school / colleges where children who has also not entered in their teens are deeply involved in DRUGS/SEX etc.

At least in India it is there but not much if compared with population of canada."

My response: I was born in India and spent a good 30 plus years in India, before imigrating to Canada. I am afraid, interceptor seems to be fromt he tribe of false nationalists ( akin to the fascist nazis), who confuse genuine criticism to being unpatriotic, and being blindly nationalistic to being patriotism.

I read somewhere that there are three kinds of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics. Interceptor probably has the statistics (read "lies";) to prove that there are more drug (and Sex) addicts among canadians than Indians . Well I would think he should read the UN report on AIDS, and Tobacco Use among Asians before making such wild allegations. There are more recreational users of tobacco in India than here. As for sex, well it's nobody's business to peek into someone's bedroom (and that someone includes interceptor). As for the sexual life of Indians, well I think the population of 1.04 billion speaks volumes. I will leave the rest to the imagination of those who read this message board.

Interceptor's next "quotable quotes"
"If you mean that pronounciations and english can only be helpful in life then i would say India is having the largest pool of englsih speaking people and it is india that is snatching away the jobs from US in call centres.
My response: Why should we bask in mediocrity, when we decide to seek fortune in an English speaking country? Just because India has "the largest pool of English speaking people", doesn't make it right. Well we are talking of getting better when it comes to speaking and writing English.

As for why India is "snatching away jobs" (sic), interceptor should probably know that we have a large pool of people who are good at developing software. Computing is more about math and logic.......not English.


Another "quote from my friend interceptor"
SC/ST is in place to bring the lower class people at par and give them opportunity and of course that is bad as it is misused by politicians and corruption is also high but my question is How many people pay taxes like in canada in India? How can u build infrastructure without gettting any revenue?
My friend is not only wrong in most aspects, but his view is skewed (or is he confused?) If as he says, many canadians do not pay taxes (and without taxes you can't build infrastructure";) how do we have superlative roads, bridges, airports, telecommunications and the like in Canada?

Now he goes to say " Bcos of people like u have ruined our country's image and I bet it was only bcos of some people our country men were slaves once upon a time.

100 mein se 80 beimman but phir bhi mera desh mahaan...


I will definately spend my retired life in India ...and i will say INDIA IS GREAT AND EAST OR WEST INDIA IS BEST...

My response is Well it's a load of crap, BS, and just plain stupidity. Now my friend talks like a false nationalistic politician, who says this things to garner votes. My question to interceptor is " I Agree Bharat is mahaan, it does have a 6000 year old history, a cultural heritage equalled only by the oldest civilizations in China. But do we keep basking in the past glory and not move forward? If we do not have the courage to constructively criticize the ills that we come across - well that is being unpatriotic. Just saying "MERA BHARAT MAHAAN" just to satisfy one's ego means nothing.

One last question - If I am wrong and interceptor is:

1) what did he come here for (apart from riches, status, the "phoren" name tag)?
2) Why wait until retirement to go back?

Any answers? I'll bide my time and wait for a smart aleck desi to give me the answers..........



Ottawa_Nerd   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 1754
Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-11-04 22:22:20

Hey Sthir...ek correction

I will give you an example of SEX in high schools in India. I will take my high school as an example.
It was as strict as a school should be. Recently a junior from my school came to study in Canada. Apparently our school "tarakki kar gaya hai"...Many girls and guys happily and quite peacefully indulge in sexual activities :) ..Blame it on "Kaanta Laga" in India ;)


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mercury6   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 2025
Location: State of Denial

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-11-04 01:39:27

STHIRU18,

Why dont you post your details in the success stories section instead of whining in a way that is not going to help anyone?

Which English Dailies were you employed with and as What?

We know you are in sales and subscription here, but with which publication?

thanks.




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Manasvi   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 733
Location: Bahrain

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-11-04 06:51:37

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw

Quote:
Orginally posted by Interceptor

Canada is rich country and has lot of natural resources, but still people are not happy ..why?

India has lots of problem but still people are Happy and people are glowing in all aspects why?



Hmm......if that were the case (people are glowing in India, unhappy in Canada), why do people want to immigrate from India to Canada?




India s ppulation is 1 000 000 000 and maybe more .Out of that a minuscule 50k to 75k come to Canada annually.Thats .000005 % .

Ok agreed not all are eligible to reach Canada . Say 15% of the above (very rough estimate ) are eligible. That pronounces 150 million. Out of these 15 crores even if 10% think of arriving Canada (ie 15 million) GTAs estimate for 2020 wud be over by now !!!
:)

The reality is that a majority of well earning professionals who are settled in India (Doctors /CA s / Businessman) DO NOT consider the Canadian option . They are comfortable and settled in India in their own habitat and wudnt wish to come over . Satisfied and glowing .

Its a small 50k - 75 k which thinks of adventuring out . These are the people who are professionals , know that they cannot reach the top (in other words average) and denounce the corruption ,pollution and over-population and find Canada as an option for restarting their lives . They want a good infrastructure / corruption free society which they eventually get but they risk to lose their professional identity in bargain.

No1 is right , no1 is wrong each have their own parameters and judgments .But its wrong to say that a large number of Indians want to come to Canada after knowing the realities . Entry to Canada is not difficult .

As 2 why dont they pack and go back - Im sure there is a significant number which does that .But the majority hang around and resettle themselves but for the inherent human nature of "settling down" & being hopeful that something will eventually come up and they accept it . Also ridicule back home may be another factor which stops ppl from packing their bags . WHY THEY COMPLAIN is coz their "consultant-misportrayed-dreams " crash in the first month .

Manasvi.



crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-11-04 08:51:15

Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw

Quote:
Orginally posted by Interceptor

Canada is rich country and has lot of natural resources, but still people are not happy ..why?

India has lots of problem but still people are Happy and people are glowing in all aspects why?



Hmm......if that were the case (people are glowing in India, unhappy in Canada), why do people want to immigrate from India to Canada?




India s ppulation is 1 000 000 000 and maybe more .Out of that a minuscule 50k to 75k come to Canada annually.Thats .000005 % .

Ok agreed not all are eligible to reach Canada . Say 15% of the above (very rough estimate ) are eligible. That pronounces 150 million. Out of these 15 crores even if 10% think of arriving Canada (ie 15 million) GTAs estimate for 2020 wud be over by now !!!
:)

The reality is that a majority of well earning professionals who are settled in India (Doctors /CA s / Businessman) DO NOT consider the Canadian option . They are comfortable and settled in India in their own habitat and wudnt wish to come over . Satisfied and glowing .

Its a small 50k - 75 k which thinks of adventuring out . These are the people who are professionals , know that they cannot reach the top (in other words average) and denounce the corruption ,pollution and over-population and find Canada as an option for restarting their lives . They want a good infrastructure / corruption free society which they eventually get but they risk to lose their professional identity in bargain.

No1 is right , no1 is wrong each have their own parameters and judgments .But its wrong to say that a large number of Indians want to come to Canada after knowing the realities . Entry to Canada is not difficult .

As 2 why dont they pack and go back - Im sure there is a significant number which does that .But the majority hang around and resettle themselves but for the inherent human nature of "settling down" & being hopeful that something will eventually come up and they accept it . Also ridicule back home may be another factor which stops ppl from packing their bags . WHY THEY COMPLAIN is coz their "consultant-misportrayed-dreams " crash in the first month .

Manasvi.



Whoa! Let me get this right..........

You tried to immigrate to Canada about a year ago?
You landed, but figured you wouldn't make it, for whatever reason.....

You now believe that everyone who immigrates to Canada is average and wasn't going anywhere in India!

Don't you think you're a case of sour grapes?!!!

At the end of the day, Canada is a G8 country and is a country of immigrants. The country would not have reached its current status if it was just picking up trash from everywhere else as you suggest.......




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