Liberals have been taught a lesson


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Loser   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1052
Location: Nice ,USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-01-06 18:56:49

It is good if they stop immigration for a while till the people who are already landed settle down first. it is no point incresing the quota off immigrants and have more unemployed/underemployed people in Toronto.


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-01-06 00:04:54

Hi all

Meghal: sorry you are right - when they say vancouver they only mean "city of Vancouver"... my bad.

Loser: Is that possible ? Can anyone predict how long each immigrant will take to 'settle down' and can you define 'settling down'? Also there is no way to predict where new immigrants will settle in Canada. Though I would like to see increased opportunities for Immigrants outside of the three main cities - and greater awareness of them.


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Azazf   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-01-06 12:04:01

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What is the tory stance on Immigration?



http://www.conservative.ca/EN/2023/37789

An immigration plan that works for Canada
04 January 2006

THE CHALLENGE

New Canadians face difficulties in finding jobs appropriate to theirs skills, training, and experience. The credentials gap harms both their livelihood and the economy as a whole. Research suggests the economic distress is getting worse, not better. Paul Martin’s government has done nothing to address the credentials issue while failing to reduce high entry fees in three budgets. With growing immigration into our increasingly knowledge-and service-based economy, only a committed federal government can provide an effective national solution.

THE FACTS

After several years of decline, the number of immigrants to Canada has started to grow again. In September of 1984, immigration stood at 84,000 individuals. Over the next eight years, through steady annual increases, immigration reached 256,000 in 1993. The Liberals returned to office and immigration decreased to 225,000, and then 210,000 in the next two years. By 2004, it had increased to 236,000.

Over half of immigrants to Canada enter as skilled or independent immigrants, as the admission system gives additional points for education, skills, and training. However, upon arrival, these immigrants encounter a variety of barriers that often lead to their under-employment or unemployment.

The Conference Board of Canada estimates that the failure to recognize immigrants’ education and credentials costs new Canadians in the range of $3.4 billion to $5.0 billion dollars a year in lost earnings.1

The issue of foreign credentials is consistently cited as one of the top three barriers to employment.

Part of the problem is complexity of the accreditation system.2 There are 13 jurisdictions in Canada, 15 regulated professions, and more than 400 regulatory bodies. Ontario alone faces a shortage of as many as 2,000 physicians, while an estimated 4,000 international medical graduates who live in the province are unable to work as doctors.3

Successive Liberal governments have made promises to address the credentials issue including in the 2002 Throne Speech. An announcement last June by the Immigration Minister lacked concrete details.

Paul Martin introduced the $975 Right of Landing Fee in 1995. He had six budgets to reduce the fee as Finance Minister. He did nothing. And as Prime Minister, he had three budgets to reduce the expensive Right of Landing Fee. He did nothing. Any promise from Paul Martin on the Right of Landing Fee is simply not believable.

Immigration reform must help new Canadians in the critical first year of their arrival through better credential recognition and lower government-imposed costs.

THE PLAN

Canada has long welcomed hard-working, law-abiding men and women seeking freedom, democracy, and opportunity for themselves and their families.

The Liberal record on immigration is to tolerate queue-jumping, set up special programs for foreign strippers, and hold up legitimate immigration applications in years of red tape. And they charge sky-high immigration fees to pay for their wasteful and corrupt spending on other departments of government.

A Conservative government will stand up for a fair and sensible immigration plan that works for Canada.

A Conservative government will:

Immediately cut the $975 Right of Landing Fee in half and continue to reduce it over our mandate as the fiscal situation allows. Immigrants and their families can better use this money to cover starting life in Canada. The estimated cost of this reduction is $500 million over five years;
Create a Canadian Agency for Assessment and Recognition of Credentials, to provide pre-assessment of international credentials and experience. We will work to educate employers on the value of foreign credentials. And we will work with the provinces and professional associations to ensure foreign-trained professionals meet Canadian standards while getting properly trained professionals working in Canada quickly; and
Support Canadian parents who adopt foreign-born children by extending automatic citizenship to these children once the adoption is final.


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7wonders   
Member since: Aug 03
Posts: 518
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-01-06 08:48:56

Bhai azaf,
Gor maharaja lagan karavi aape ...chokra na kari de..
Govt immigration aape..kai tamne ghar kari na bhai...have e pan gayu..wait and watch wat conservative is gonna do.
thanks


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Loser   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1052
Location: Nice ,USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-01-06 11:08:38

Can you translate


Quote:
Orginally posted by 7wonders

Bhai azaf,
Gor maharaja lagan karavi aape ...chokra na kari de..
Govt immigration aape..kai tamne ghar kari na bhai...have e pan gayu..wait and watch wat conservative is gonna do.
thanks


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Charlie   
Member since: Apr 05
Posts: 538
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-01-06 12:40:08

Quote:
Orginally posted by Loser

Can you translate


Quote:
Orginally posted by 7wonders

Bhai azaf,
Gor maharaja lagan karavi aape ...chokra na kari de..
Govt immigration aape..kai tamne ghar kari na bhai...have e pan gayu..wait and watch wat conservative is gonna do.
thanks




"Gor Maharaja will get you married but will not make children for you......govt will give you immigration but not eastablish you by setting up household & job (I guess)......now this immigration is also a history....(b'cause of Conservative)"


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nicefolks20   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 94
Location: GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-06 15:54:03

Actually, in my opinion the Desi community in GTA and Vancouver etc did themselves a disservice by not voting strategically for the Conservatives. Clearly, if they had voted in conservative candidates in these ridings, the Desi vote block alone is so large the conservatives will never make the mistake of curbing immigration. Now, what do the Conservatives have to lose, unless the next time the Desi community looks to be warming up to them. At least some folks in Quebec realized that they should vote conservative, when it was clear that the conservatives were going to at least form the government. Better to have a seat at the table than not.

Further, the conservatives are not anti-immigration or pro-US, and are not guilty of even 10% of the allegations that Paul Martin was hurling at Harper.

Based on the liberals view, the day after Harper is sworn in, we should see guns, soldiers and army tanks on the streets, ready to take over downtown Toronto, and Parliament Hill. It is ridiculous! They made it sound like it would be the darkest day in the history of this nation (or as Quebec says, "the nation within a nation";)

All this only because they were playing the voters who failed to properly analyze the policy platforms of the liberals/conservatives. When there is ignorance, "fear" is very effective to convince voters to stay the course.





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