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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-07-06 08:20:05

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Originally posted by Azazf

may be you are making a compromise but me and bunch of others are not going down without a fight. i feel like a revolutionary already.


Hey i never came to Canada in my past birth :p . Seriously I have no problem with your revolutionary streak...it makes a good balance to my survival mentality. We need both in a democracy. I said so as much in my initial post to Big vee about this.


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It depends who is the mohammed and from who he is taking aim at. bhagat singh and chandrashekhar were also probably the mohammeds from the point of view of the britishers werent they.



Thats where my self interest come in. I dont care if you think strapping a suicide bomb onto a bunch of brainwashed kids and telling them to go bomb newyork or madrid or mumbai is a 'freedom-fighter'. If you think like that...Canada is probably not the place for you. There are plenty of places in the the middle-east living in the 13th century where you will find solace in the 'victim-herd' go sing to them about freedom fighting.

The extremists have the habit of making the west responsible for the state of affairs in their homelands...by some 'extended-clause'. If that logic applied then the muslims that got killed in Godhra(you know Ivwe condemed that plenty of times on this board) were also complicit in the actions of those actually responsible. The terrorists had to get their funding from the 'chariites' right?

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but neither religion permits innocents being butchered and for the record my religion says so too............for the ignorant fools out there who think otherwise.


I do not say otherwise else I would not have supported the right of islam to exist in the west.

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were those your lips on my a**. couldnt help it. .


No that was me applauding your climbing off the 'victim' brigade. looks like you are back on already...it was good while it lasted.

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But you might wanna take a second look at the things you were saying on some of the posts.


Your options are to Ignore or make me :p .

Really...if you want to continue in that tone...PM me for grandpas medicine again.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-07-06 08:25:32

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Originally posted by Azazf

Do you really think that the terrorist issues we have been having in India would be non existent or of a different kind if the kashmir problem was solved when it became a problem. If the answer is yest then you are addressing the issues of the would be terrorists.



I don't for a minute! Because if the Kashmir issue had been resolved, they'd be asking for Uttranchal today.

Do you seriously think that if India were to hand over Kashmir unconditionally to the terrorists today, it would put a stop to attacks? If yes, then we should probably stop any further discussion between us on this, because we'll never agree on anything related to this.



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mails4sagar   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 310
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-07-06 19:27:49

Can someone explain how they (the people who are responsible for authorisizing these measures) are "restricting" the useage by the anti national elements ?



"Millions of domestic internet users could not access some of the world’s most popular blogs like geocities.com, blogspot.com and typepad.com, as the government ordered a blackout of around 18 sites for publishing content that was ‘anti-national’ and ‘against public interest’. "

"ISPs are believed to have been asked to block sites like bloodspot.com, hinduhumanrights.org, hinduuni-ty.org and clickatell.com, besides frontline blogs like the Google-owned blogsp-ot.com. Deepak Maheshwari, secretary of ISP Association of India said: “We have received a letter from DoT, asking us to block around 18 URLs.”"

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=134366" target="_blank">http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=134366



"The Indian Government has issued an order to all Indian ISPs for a ban on various blogging sites. While no official release has been made on this front, the reasons being attributed to this ban range from it being a preventive measure to stop sleeper terrorist cells from accessing instructions contained in blogs, to a new measure to try and control the spread of information through blogs. The order was issued by Department of Telecommunications (DoT). The known list of blocked domains is *.blogspot.com, *.typepad.com and geocities.com/*.

It leads me to wonder if this is a case of ISPs overreacting, which would not be the first. Three years ago, they had rather zealously blocked groups.yahoo.com in a similar manner when all they wanted to actually do was to block a particular group. As of now most of the large ISPs have already complied with the DoT order and a large population of Indian bloggers has been cut off from their own blogs."

http://tech.moneycontrol.com/news/india-blocks-blogger-typead-and-geocities-blogs-and-websites/1988/india/" target="_blank">http://tech.moneycontrol.com/news/india-blocks-blogger-typead-and-geocities-blogs-and-websites/1988/india/</a>






AND HERE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE MEANS TO CIRCUMVENT IT (from the internet, none of this is my input)...........

simply access your blogspot blog like this: http://www.pkblogs.com/blogname


"I can’t access the site. Meanwhile, I have implemented a tool that will show any Blogger post in text-only format. It works with most Blogger blogs.
Please check out.

http://www.anniyalogam.com/scripts/freedomviewer.php" target="_blank">http://www.anniyalogam.com/scripts/freedomviewer.php</a> "


"Anyway, the government must be shown that its dictatorial, emergency-days type censorship cannot work in the connected times. I’m listing here a few websites you can use to access the blocked blogs. If you are hosting your blog on an independent, non-blogger server, please put this information there so that in case they start blocking individual websites, at least the information remains available through other websites.

http://www.proxzee.com/ [at the bottom of the screen there is a box where you can submit the link]
http://www.pkblogs.com/ [this was created by Pakistani bloggers when blogs were banned in Pakistan recently — try this first]
You can subscribe to life feeds — RSS and Atoms — via http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/home [you can search for the blog and subscribe to the feed]
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/4807 This article tells you how to access blocked blogs and websites using Google’s translation tool
http://www.proxify.com/
http://www.fastandloud.com/uncategorized/blocked-school-work-filter-bypass-myspace-facebook-friendster-google-orkut-yahoo-360/" target="_blank">http://www.fastandloud.com/uncategorized/blocked-school-work-filter-bypass-myspace-facebook-friendster-google-orkut-yahoo-360/</a>This blog post has comprehensive information on accessing blocked websites"


use an open proxy - go to http://www.hidemyass.com" rel="nofollow">LINK -
type in the blog url (in this case I typed in http://mumbaihelp.blogspot.com/ - type in the validation code, and you should be able to see it."




Update.........


"Experts believe that the government’s sudden move is aimed at thwarting the use of blogs (online journals) and websites by terrorists and their supporters. Blogspot, a Google-owned site, is among those blocked by this government measure.

However, among the apparently ‘anti-national’ sites blocked by this policy are those like the MumbaiHelp blogspot, which was a lifeline for people post the Tuesday blasts in Mumbai, giving information about critical numbers to contact and details about the dead and injured.

To compound the absurdity, it’s still possible to get onto this site — but only by logging on through http://www.pkblogs.com" rel="nofollow">LINK, a site set up by Pakistani bloggers to get around the blog ban that their government had put in place after the Danish cartoons episode. In short, thanks to this new policy, a blog to help the victims of a possibly Pakistan-inspired attack can only be accessed through a Pakistani site! "


"Peter Griffin, one of the founders of the MumbaiHelp blog, points out that the government’s policy is particularly futile, given the explosion of the blog universe. “Apart from free blogs like blogspot, which is what the government seems to be targeting now, there are also private blogs that anyone can put on their site, and the blogs being run by media organisations like CNN and the Guardian. Is the government going to shut them all down? It would probably be simpler for them to decide to close off the whole Internet and then only allow selected sites the way China seems to be doing. Is this really the way India wants to go?”"

http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1767836,curpg-1.cms" target="_blank">http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1767836,curpg-1.cms





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mails4sagar   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 310
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-07-06 17:02:24



:clap: :D :D :clap:


"The blocking of websites in the aftermath of the serial blasts, which was done in the name of national security, has now led to an embarrassing controversy.

Various government agencies and departments are blaming each other for the mess."

http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Blocking+sites%3A+Govt+fights+to+save+face&id=90401" target="_blank">http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Blocking+sites%3A+Govt+fights+to+save+face&id=90401


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mails4sagar   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 310
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-07-06 22:48:01



:D :D :D

"The Department of Telecom (DoT) has instructed all the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in the country to block only the specified website/webpages on the parent website. The DoT, in its letter issued to all the ISPs has mentioned that it had come to notice that in some cases the parent website had been blocked in contravention to what was stated in its earlier order dated 13th July 2006 whereby it ordered the ISPs to block certain websites/webpages."

http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=18954


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