" If you do not have a need...you will not see a reason to be involved and share your opinions/experiences. "

I totally agree with Jake. Not many immigrants who are doing well in their lives and career feel the need to come out and share their experiences. I met quite a few indians doing extremely well, and I'd say a major segment of our immigrant community is able ot successfully merge into the mainstream of canadian life. I mentioned to many of the successful ones about canadiandesi.com but the idea did not seem to excite them, and rightfully so ...they do not feel the need for any help or opinions.

I have been a keen follower of this website before and after landing because I have the need to learn more about what others immigrants have experienced and are going thru. But after having seen the ground realities myself I feel this site has way too many negative posts.

To all those who are waiting to be immigrants I'd say in my opinion Canada is a great place to be especially for those from indian subcontinent. I respect those who disagree, but i strongly stand by what I feel now.

If we are ready to slog it out in the beginning by getting local qualifications and licences this place offers a world of new opportunities to improve our career and future prospects for the next generations. As 1st generation immigrants we have to be prepared to work very hard to get to and make the best use of those opportunities.

I come across many immigrants totally bogged down by short term difficulties. They seem to have lost the big picture, we are the cause of moving our future generations from growing up in india to growing up in North america. Like many americans who trace their roots backs to their forefathers who made the big brave move from europe/Asia many generations back, we are those "forefathers" for our future generations who will look back at us for making this move from India to Canada and struggling it out in the beginning.

The major and more difficult part of this migration process is over by landing as an immigrant after uprooting ourselves from our homeland. The next and relatively easier part of finding a foothold growing from it begins now.
And as I said before, this growing from scratch process can be made a very enjoyable if we cherish every small small progress we make and focus on the positives more than the negatives. And then we will all agree that Canada is a great place to be.

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Orginally posted by HARJIT6244


WHU CAN'T THIS COUNTRY BE LIKE MALAYSIA, SINGAPORE OR OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES..... AND I HAVE TOLD MY FRIENDS FROM SINGAPORE AND ELSEWHERE NEVER COME HERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO TO THE "GALLOWS"

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE POSITIVE SPEAKERS. JAI HIN

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Harjit and others in the same boat...are you guys trying for jobs in places outside of GTA?
Like many have mentioned you may have better luck in places like Montreal. This is true especially for IT professionals. Anyway looks like you have nothing to lose by trying.

Also why do you type in all caps. Of course, if you are trying to show that you are yelling, it works. For those who are not aware of netiquette...use mixed case. UPPER CASE LOOKS AS IF YOU'RE SHOUTING.
http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html

p.s: there is no limit on hope. .

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Dear Harjit,
I apologize if I sound sarcastic in my previous post. But I truly feel you will succeed if you try changing you approach try different provinces/ get 2-3 other opinions on your resume from a neighbourood center.

Try try try again till you find what you want. Never give up.

Good luck my friend.

Samir

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Hello Mishtar India

After your first posting in this thread, the way prospective/new immigrants are reacting is bit strange for me. I feel that people don’t want to hear any negative points about Canada as they already made up their mind that Canada in nothing but Heaven. If one experienced immigrants is writing anything about his/her struggle, experience after landing in Canada ( let it be negative or positive), that has some meaning and truth in it. In my opinion if you would not acknowledge the problem you won’t be able to fix it.

At Canadian Desi what I noticed that all experienced immigrants give their unbiased and frank opinion on all issues, now that opinion can be positive or negative. So if I really want to prepare myself to land in Canada I will listen to all those opinion, specially negative one as those opinion will help me to prepare myself more appropriately to settle down in Canada.

And as I mentions before in one post that every countries has its advantages and disadvantages, let it be Canada or India.

Thanks and regards.
Biomed

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Mishtar India, i completely agree with you.Its important to put in ones best and keep trying. the key I think is to be realistic..hope for the best and be prepared for teh worst, keep an open mind and remember that finally it was an informed choice that one makes before coming to canada.
It was a great morale booster to hear your experience...All the best and tell the group when you land a job that you love..I am sure all of us will be happy for u.

To Mishtar India and other positive thinkers

Why do you guys seem to equate positive thinking with speaking good about Canada? I have been considered perhaps the biggest negetive thinker on this forum but people who have branded me as a negetive thinker do not realise that positive thinking DOES NOT mean hiding facts.

I am a very positive thinker and people from Canadian desi who have visited me at my place and met me personally will hopefully agree to it. Because I am a positive thinker, I am continuing my fight to succeed and also making a factual representation of situation in Canada for new immigrants - specially of persons over 38-40 with grown up children, so that they can make an informed decision which I myself did not. Today you say that you find lot of negetive thinkers on this site, but because of that you were well prepared and on landing you found things really good. Just imagine how you would have felt if my friends and I would have bombarded this forum with positive notes like:

Canada is great
There is no dearth of opportunities for the people who want to grab it.
Success is just a matter of hard work in Canada.
As soon as you are employed, you can easily get a mortgage (without telling them that it would not be a regular mortgage but perhaps a private lendor mortgage at a high interest).
The buses here are airconditioned - heated in winters and cold in summers (without telling them that you got to wait for 30 minutes in freezing cold on most of the non busy routes - which are near residential colonies)
Most of the local people cannot add 18 and 16 without using a calculator so your ability to do this will put you one up (without telling you that these qualities are sometimes roadblocks initially since you tend to know more than your prospective boss).
Due to minimum wages, you get a reasonably good minimum and by saving a 1000 dollars a month you will be able to remit to your parents back home Rs 30000 per month (without telling them that it is really difficult for an average new immigrant to save even $500 per month)

.............and a thousand other good things about Canada.

And if you had landed here after reading all these \"positive posts\" - you would have cursed me and my similar views friends on this forum.

So PLEASE, do not confuse positive thinking with factual representation. Because of my positive thinking, within 18 months of our decision to succeed here in Canada, I have earned the professional qualification of CPA and my wife has got a north american professional degree and our family income exceeds $80k, (which might be a good figure for many a immigrants, but not me). Because we are positive thinkers, we have not only been able to settle ourselves well here against all odds, but are even able to bring the Canadian Desis together to help each other.

But all this positive thinking cannot change the facts that my first job in canada was on the shopfloor in a doughnut making company, or that I have NEVER received a single interview from any company even though these HRDC centres, Job finding clubs, Skills for change and employement agencies have found both my experience, confidence and the resume to be great (Accountemps' very senior management position lady had remarked - oh chandresh, you will go a long way in Canada - you have all the ingredients of a successful immigrant), or that for the first time in my life I work in a cubicle and not a cabin of my own doing jobs similar to data entry, or that I had to wait for three months for my son to be seen by a specialist for a wart he had in his foot which made him limp many a times, or that after two months of my appointement with a specialist (which itself came after two months of my family physician's request), I am still waiting for a call from Sunnybrook hospital for an appointment for an allergy test where the specialist has suspected that simple painkillers can be life threatening for me, or that my daughter had to suffer with a dangling tooth for over four months in Canada while today, my first day in Delhi for a short vacation, I got her relieved of the pain in 10 minutes by a visit to my dentist etc. etc. etc.

So once again - Positive thinking has no relationship with factual representation - except that by relating a fact, I (positively) think and hope that intending immigrants will make informed decisions and come prepared with more determination.

And see for yourself, when I wrote one special posting ONLY about the positive reasons for an Indian to migrate to Canada, no one responded to it for some days, and now it is even difficult to locate that post. In that post, I had written logical reasons (and not things from self management books like hard work and perseverence) for migrating to Canada from India (like electricity, water, weather, quality of life etc. etc.). Another post by Happyji which requested each of us to write atleast ONE good thing we have experienced in Canada, got lost with just 2 replies - since noone seemed to have good enough experience to write about it!

And you would definitely agree, it is better to be conservative in expectations from Canada than to feel 'Positive' that everything is great here.

So a final request - Don't confuse positive thinking with factual representation.

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