My post landing experience


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My post landing experience of Canada
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Friends,
This is my first message on my post landing experience in Toronto last month. The last 4 weeks have been full of surprises and I’d like to share some of my 2 cents from a different perspective.

The first big surprise was at the first immigration counter when the immigration officer said to me “Welcome to Canada, your new home..eh”. I cannot describe the feeling, every country that I have been to in the past I was asked at the immigration “When do you plan to leave?” The next immigration officer turned out to be a lady of indian origin, she took my picture for PR and did not even bother to check my landing funds, even when I insisted on showing ( I spent $10 in getting the drafts made and no one even looked at it )Then I was given a welcome package with vital info for new immigrants. This booklet holds info on the wealth of resources in local areas in Canada. Every resource listed in this booklet should be explored, to my surprise I found many new immigrants giving up too soon on the resources mentioned. The whole process from stepping out of aircraft to clearing customs took not more than 40 minutes.
Outside the airport I was greeted by one of the coldest days of the season with -31C and winds. I was happy I landed on the coldest day because every other days seemed like spring even it was -5 outside.

The next day after applying for my SIN card I attended a seminar in a nearby new comer information center (NIC). There were about 20-25 other new immigrants at this seminar and it gave a wealth of info for a new comer ranging from local info on GTA to how to prepare and look for jobs. These NIC’s also have one on one counselors to help every new comer target the jobs in his own field. Like NICs, there are many such centers and organizations all across canada and what surprised me that how much the Govt is doing to help the new immigrants settle in and get into the mainstream. In the 4 other countries where I have lived and worked before no such help was available, I had to struggle and find out things by myself.
We formed a group of 8-10 new immigrants when we met at NIC and it proved to be a great support structure, to be able to share your experiences and views with people in similar situations is a great help in itself. I took every opportunity to talk to every desi or immigrant I came across at bus stops at trains etc, getting different perspectives was a great learning experience in itself.

I’d like to differ with those who present a very negative image and say that only labor jobs are given to desis. I found a few major trends in immigrants which I feel is also contributing to the miseries of new immigrants. I may be wrong but the general trends which I was was quite disturbing
1. Many desis try to land a job as soon as possible within the first 2 weeks. $1=Rs30 factor and also the fear of spending from the settlement funds drives this trend but I’d suggest if one has to do labor jobs, do it after 3-4 months when one has tried every other avenue to get a break in their own field. Also many come with families and kids which will make things even worse in the beginning. Unless one is very well funded bringing families should be a big NO NO.
2. Many desis try to in the comfort zone of GTA. GTA is an industrial area Esp mississauga and west and most employment agencies there will give only labor and factory jobs, even if you hold an MBBS. I met very well qualified people doing labor jobs and were feeling happy that they are earning more than what they did in india. I was stupefied by one guy(B.E, MBA) who said he is doing day and night shifts at a factory just to accumulate 900 hours so that he can get unemployment insurance from the govt.
I don’t blame the govt. of canada for his miseries, if that is what his goals are then that is what he will get. Many of us don’t aim high enough.
We all have to struggle. the choice of where to struggle is ours. Whether to struggle really hard to re-qualify( if needed) and get into our own field or to keep struggling in menial jobs. The choice is really ours.

3. Not many desis make use of the Co-op and other employment programs offered by the govt. The down side of these programs is that one does not get paid for 5-6 months while one gets to work in firms in ones own field. 85% of those who participate in these programs get gainfully employed. Also,not many desis join french courses. I am not sure of the details, but I am told Govt of Quebec gives $500 a month to everyone who enrolls for a french learning class. A family of 4 grown ups could make $2000 a month for just attending french classes everyday for 4 hrs a day!! And one could then do other jobs as well to support. What do we gain by learning french? A whole new world of govt jobs will open to us besides the money and knowledge of another language. Think about it. It will take time but all good things take time.

4. Lastly and most importantly all new desis must work on communication and presentation before coming. That is the key for everything in Canada. I met a senior college prof from India with a PhD, he was complaining about lack of jobs. There are indians in senior positions in Canadian universities with less qualifications than him but what was the difference. The difference I felt was that this person despite his qualification could not even pronounce his name right “Sassi Kumar” for Shashi Kumar in a bihari/UP accent. No offence to Bihari’s please, I am a bihari too. To top it off he had strong sented “chameli ka tel” and drooping 70’s moustache … I wonder how could he clear any interview.

There are plenty of opportunities in Canada. To get to those we have to work hard to get local licencures and qualifications and canadianize ourselves with a positive outlook. And jobs and opportunities will follow in with time. Otherwise we will just working hard on menial jobs with no hopes for future.
There are very few places in the world which offer so many opportunities to new immigrants to settle down, we need find out about them to make full use of it to succeed.

Gook luck to all.



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Tuk Tuk   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 94
Location: Brampton, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-03-04 15:15:33

If you see, this thread has raked in 97 replies, I won't be surprised if it goes to 150 or 175, This shows how potent is positive thinking & how people really like to listen to successful stories & get motivated. This is what everbody wants . BUT ........

I feel many people on this forum thought Mr. Chrandesh & Biomed & many more always had negative aspect , but according to me,they are the most optimistic guys & if not for their true ,sefless & honest feedfack, nobody would have learned the real lessons as how to really balance your views & expectations about Canada & Succeed here.

It's their success .

Hats of to you Guys & Of Course Rashmibhai Tumne Kem Bhulai (Guruji)

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Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-03-04 15:57:12

You are exactly right Tuk Tuk, it is their inputs which helped me do a balance my outlook for what could be hard times that could come my way ...i was coming with high hopes, and after reading their inputs i did a reality check ( but still remained optimistic) and that helped me get prepared better .

Hats off to Garvo, Chandresh , Biomed and all ...for making it so lively with their inputs

Hope many more will share their views here .


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bumbaya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-03-04 21:22:34

Funtabulous Mr India
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tohri khushi bhari baaton se canada aur CD.com jhoomela

Holi kab hai..kab hai holi?
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xxx   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 61
Location: us

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-03-04 01:53:52

this oozes with +ve ness, I read it to get inspiration, even though I had nothing to post as of now in this thread,
great thread Mr india ,



bharat.sharma   
Member since: Oct 03
Posts: 53
Location: India

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-03-04 07:39:57

Hello Misthar India,

I have been tracking your each and every post. And now you are my roll model. I have just got my visa only last week with only two and half months left for prepparations.

The last six months after medical were very agoinising for me. But it was only your post kept my high spirit. And I do agree in my life also it has happened same. When you do not press hard for your luck it comes on your way. We have proverb in Gujarati " Na maange dodatu aave, maanagan bhakhaya rahe" which means if you don't ask for, things come running to you and if you keep demanding (like beggers - Maangan) you will remain hungry.

I have got my visa now and planning to laned in May. With your high sprit I have learned lot and I think if I follow the suit there should not be any problem in setteling in Canada for me. Because I am confident that I have same attitude only need to sharpen my weapons a bit.

For all those who are waiting my time line:

applied: Sept. 2001.
Got interview waiver and medical: April 2003
Submitted medicals, passport, ROLF: June, 2003
Got Visa: March, 2004

Total time 2.5 yrs.!!!
In between I switched 2 jobs. ALways keeping in mind to look out for job which can be helpful to me in Canada. Now I am working in multinational having thier center in Toronto. I am working out to get some position in that center and positively hope for the same.

This was all due to Misthar India and my hearty congratulations to him for clicking (I would say snatching - as mentioned by psychologist in reachme's post ) such an opportunity.

Thats the way to live.

And my sincere thanks to Garvobhai, Blue Lobster,Jake,Chandresh , Biomed and all others

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Orginally posted by Mishtar India

You are exactly right Tuk Tuk, it is their inputs which helped me do a balance my outlook for what could be hard times that could come my way ...i was coming with high hopes, and after reading their inputs i did a reality check ( but still remained optimistic) and that helped me get prepared better .

Hats off to Garvo, Chandresh , Biomed and all ...for making it so lively with their inputs

Hope many more will share their views here .


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MERA BHARAT MAHAN (Thats what my wife says)


biomed   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 700
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-03-04 08:58:19

Congratulations Bharat..... looking forward to see you in Canada.
Let me know if you need any help before or after landing. I can be reached at

Thanks and regards.
Biomed


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Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-03-04 09:41:46

Wooo...Bharat i am flatterred, it is nice of you to call me your role model ...but i dont think i deserve it ...you might be able to get a much better break than i did.... all you need to hope for is to be at the right place at the right time... and never underestimate your potential .

We dont know what the life has in store for us but the least we can do is to be optimistic about it...no matter what situation we face at the moment.

Last week i went to toronto to meet me new employers and spent the weekend there and one thing i have to tell you that the more i go there the more i like the city. Toronto is a great city ...i have been living in US for almost 4-5 yrs and i am axcited about moving to toronto. It is cleaner ( for most parts), laid back and has a very cosmopolitan feel to it. Something like Seattle with a better public transport system.
I dont know where you plan to stay after arriving but the trend among many indians is to stay close to mississauga and western suburbs ...one word of caution... mississauga is saturated by new comers.try Toronto instead, near a subway line, the cost is not much different than other suburbs ( a single person can get a sharing room in $500) and you will be a lot more mobile and will be able to utilize our job search time more effectively.

Good luck !!

Samir


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