Interesting article in 'Hindustan Times'


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jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 09:08:21

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Originally posted by meetonline

I may not have the depth knowledge


AHA. :)

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Originally posted by meetonline
is STRONG HINDU leader who has knowledge and guts to promote our religion in strongly with good manner.





hey relax. I agree with you. All I want is is "STRONG CHRISTIAN leader who has knowledge and guts to promote our religion in strongly with good manner." . Do you see anything wrong in that? You see a problem with that when you are in Canada? You think Canadians should wote a 'Strong Christian Leader' instead of any other leader? No double standards remember? whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Like I said all this crap about banning christmas trees and 'multi-culturalism' and try to 'understand' others etc. Lets have a STRONG HINDU LEADER (obviously none of the leaders so far were strong enough...inspite of being Hindus) in india.

I agree with you...we need a STRONG EXTREME RIGHT HINDU LEADER IN INDIA. Similarly a STRONG EXTREME RIGHT CHRISTIAN LEADER IN CANADA, US, EUROPE.

NO MORE 'PSEUDO SECULARISM' ANYWHERE. 'right is right' and all that good stuff. No more catering to minorities in Canada, India, Europe, USA etc.

Sounds fair to me.

Only point being...where does race fit into all this...does it come before or after religion? HAH, who has time to think..."the depth knowledge" and all that shmancy stuff?


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jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 09:41:45

while we are at it I propose some major namechanging to preserve culture/history.

Canada: Be called Christiandom of the great North (CGN...hey it even goes well with CDN)

America(usa): United states of Middle Earth Christiandom (USMEC). Mexico can be mordor.

EUROPE: Central Christiandom (just cc for short....now the only problem will be confusing the cc field in emails)


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meetonline   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 10:07:57

There is two scenario :
First: some one invade your house and force you to follow their rules , change your identity, Loot , rape, kill ( islam, xtians)

Second: someone come to your house and stay with you as your friend, help you build your house , take care of you: build community center, help grow family wealth ( examples: Parsi)

What do u do with scenario 1 ? IF U HV THE ANSWER U WILL NOT SPEAK AGAIN HINUDU ANYMORE .



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 10:09:05

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Originally posted by meetonline

WE ARE SO WEAK AS HINDU, Specially like “ Iknownothitng” u should not call your self hindu or even Indain. I hate the double standard.



JAY HIND



Can you define who is a Hindu? I just want to know if I would be allowed in your country or kicked out :p



meetonline   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 10:21:32

Again , history clearly represent the helping nature of HINDUSTAN , we have never kick out anybody as long as they stay friendly and helpful to the people .

But, people come to house to take advantage of our good nature, by looting, converting, raping and help in terrorist activities

Now u put your self which categories u fit in ? t hen u don’t need my answer.



jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 10:36:25

Quote:
Originally posted by meetonline

There is two scenario :
First: some one invade your house and force you to follow their rules , change your identity, Loot , rape, kill ( islam, xtians)

Second: someone come to your house and stay with you as your friend, help you build your house , take care of you: build community center, help grow family wealth ( examples: Parsi)

What do u do with scenario 1 ? IF U HV THE ANSWER U WILL NOT SPEAK AGAIN HINUDU ANYMORE .



I agree with you xtians, islam have done all that. YET, out of 1 billion Indians an overwhelming majority is still hindu right? Dont you see that the 'christian' nations are only now catching up to some of the concepts that helped hinduism survive and thrive? Anyway I dont want to try "the depth knowledge " stuff with you.

Secondly builds community center, grow family wealth etc is fine. However it cannot be accomplished by anyone without well wishes and the help of the majority. If Canada elects a "STRONG CHRISTIAN LEADER" that itself will make it difficult for any hindu to do that.

You yourself called having muslims in BJP as DOUBLE STANDARD. In the same way any political power to anyone else other than CHRISTIAN in Canada will be a double standard. Will it not?

Similarly, taking pages from right wing hindus, why not make BIBLE STUDY compulsory in all canadian schools. It will preserve the christian nature of the state right? What about having christian/western textbooks and images in classrooms. Preserve culture right?

Ultimately if we are to conserve the 'christian' character of canada, we should do things to make sure that it remains so (like the right wingers say to do so for india). You know start with the minds of people, the more extreme ones will want to burn a few temples and stuff like that. After all a 'strong christian leader' sends out the signal about what religion is the one in control.

What if Hindus in Canada(under a STRONG CHRISTIAN LEADER), are cut of politically and culturally from the system....in order to 'preserve christian values'? What if,like you want Modi, people want Jerry Falwell as the president of the US?

Now in such a scenario what are the chances of any 'hindu' coming as a friend and help grow family wealth' etc? Let me tell you man...not going to happen. Any shift in that direction will automatically mean you will find it even more difficult to find jobs let alone build wealth or have any political representation. Mumbai did not thrive because it kept the gujjus out...quite the contrary.

You cannot say you want one thing for minorities in India and another for those in Canada. Thats what double standards are. I would think you would be aware that what you are advocating can very well be applied against you.


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meetonline   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-09-08 10:56:47

You people don’t wanna see India as Hindu nation – so any argument I do is baseless to you.

As a Hindu if I dont try to protect my religion , u will clean us so fast.
look at the numbers( not 100% sure about) , it used to be around 8-10 % muslim in India when it was independent , but now they almost 18-20% ( may be more), like wise xtians.

so in sort time Hindu will be out numbers and then there is no Hindu religion .
so whatever we have now we have to protect, I agree may be sometime EXTREMIST HINDU USE FORCE, but that is happening everywhere , u cant control everybody.
NO MATTER WHAT OTHER RELIGION HAS TO SAY , AS HINDU WE SHOLD DO ALL WE CAN TO PROTECT HINDU RELIGION. OTHER WISE THE DAYS ARE NOT FARE TO SAY GOOD BY TO HINDU’S.
Now to your point: western countries ( Europe, Canada, USA, etc…) are worrying about growing majorities of Islam , they are preparing them self to find ways to stop this. Everybody is trying to protect , by hook or crook.

Why does Canada, USA and other country has racism ? everybody wants to protect their identity , their culture. SO WHY NOT HINDU’S



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