PR v/s Citizenship


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Mohanjeet   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 281
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-03-04 21:04:23

Any info on ow much time physically u have to be in canada for maintaing your pr status and how much for getting canadian citizenship.



rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-03-04 06:53:37

PR
2 years stay in Canada in every 5 year period
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/after-3.html

Citizenship
have lived in Canada for at least 3 of the 4 years before applying

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/becoming-howto.html


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Mohanjeet   
Member since: Feb 04
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Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-03-04 19:00:21

For citizenship do have to accumilate three years or they r straight



Ottawa_Nerd   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 1754
Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-10-04 23:27:44

Massood Ji,
This is a point where many new applicants are getting confused. Please do provide us with your inputs. I apologize for spamming someone else's thread, but saw it futile to start a new thread.. Here are the possible scenarios.

A person got immigration to Canada on Oct. 4, 2004. Now, he wants to apply for citizenship. He can

1.) Stay in Canada continously till Oct 3rd 2007 and apply for Citizenship on Oct 4th, 2007

2.) Live in Canada till say April 3rd 2007 and then leave Canada for 6 months. This means he will be back in Canada on Oct 3rd 2007. Now here is the main confusing point. Others have stated it and others have disproved it. Maybe your word will be the final word..

a.) Does he have to stay for 6 more months from Oct 3rd 2007 and apply on March 3rd 2008 ?

b.) Or does he have to stay for 3 more years, starting from Oct 3rd 2007 and start the count afresh. In this scenario, he can apply only on Oct 4th 2010.


Your views on this will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely


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chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-10-04 08:08:49

HI ON,

I know the question is for Massood - but having a first hand experience, I think I am eligible to answer it too;) . Excuse me for barging in.

If I am not wrong, the requirement is to be in canada a total of 1095 days (like 365 days times 3 - however, with a leap year it can be 1 day less than 3 full calender years) - in a period of last four calander years. Therefore, in your question, the requirement would be 2 (a) and not 2 (b).

I have travelled out of Canada of and on in last four years (the first absence being 7 months straight for which I had to take an RRP) but still could muster up the 1095 days in total - and so I have appeared for citizenship test a month ago.

however, what confuses me (and perhaps a few others too) is the PR rules of 2 our of five years. To give an example,

1. a person lands on say 1st Jan of year 1
2. lives in canada till 1st Jan of year 3 (2 full years) and leaves the country.

The question is

a) can he live outside of canada till 31st Dec of year 8 (three years of first block of 5 years and 3 of the second block of 5 years) and return to live in Canada till 31st Dec of year 10, OR

b) He has to return before 31st Dec of year 5 to maintain his PR?


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bighead   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-10-04 13:02:01

the answer is b..

pr's need to accumilate 2 years of residence out of any 5 year block.. that means in any given 5 year period, you must reside in canada for 2 years... the confusion arises because people look at it from the other way around (by asking how long they can be absent)...

if you look at requirement for residency rather than how long you can dissapear, it seems a little clearer.. in any 5 year period, you must reside in canada for 2 in order to maintain pr status...

in your example, the 5 year block starts from jan 1st of year 1... if the person leaves on jan 1 of year 3 (with 2 years of residence) then in order to maintain pr he must return by dec 31 of year 5 (three years since leaving)... that does not mean a new 5 year block starts the day he returns, rather what you have to do is pick that day, count back 5 years from that day, and to maintain pr, you must have resided for 2 years from that day... in your example, on the day he returns (dec 31 year 5), if he counts back 5 years, he has two years of residency (hence satisfying requirement) but if he turns around and leaves on jan 2nd year 6, then on jan 3rd counting back 5 years, he will be two days short of pr requirement... (these numbers are illustrative only, things like leap years etc are not taken into account)...

same is true for citizenship as well... in the 4 year period the day before you apply to become a canadian citizen, you need 3 years of residency...



kamalraina   
Member since: Nov 03
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-10-04 15:07:34

I am also confused a bit after going thru all the info above.But I must say it is well written by all.My wife became a permanent resident on 08 May 2004 and left back for India on 11 july 2004.Can anyone suggest what is the last date she can enter CANADA to maintain permanent residency?
Best regards



Contributors: bighead(6) Mohanjeet(4) sukh(2) Ottawa_Nerd(2) rajcanada(1) Massood(1) ashish30(1) chandresh(1) kamalraina(1)



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