Study Abroad - India-The best place for study in world
| Poll:Study Abroad - India-The best place for study in world | |||
| Choice | Stats | ||
| Yes-Education system in India is very good | 35% (6) |    |
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| No! | 65% (11) | |
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| Poll:Study Abroad - India-The best place for study in world | |||
| Choice | Stats | ||
| Yes-Education system in India is very good | 35% (6) | |
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| No! | 65% (11) | |
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Originally posted by web2000
Well, I don't need to prove anything.
Just FYI, read the following link. You will find many like these on the internet.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/raise-standards-to-compete-with-indian-kids/436542/
Well, if you say something like "Microsoft O/S which is > 70% developed in India" you should have something to back it up. There are many "links" like the one you gave - but that does not prove the point that is being discussed.
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 23-12-09 18:28:20
Maybe its just me and its nearly the end of the week before christmas, but why do i feel like this thread has turned into a 'mine is bigger than yours' discussion.!!!
I was going to write something worse but its neither lady-like nor appropriate. 
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Another good example is Microsoft O/S which is > 70% developed in India, but it is still recognized as MS product.
So when we talk about education then stick to it, Don't involve govt. policies/politics.
For how long are we gonna pat ourselves in the back? Most of our claims are ridiculous and blown out of proportions. All these stem from the deep inferiority complex rooted among us.
Check out the spam email from early 2000's claiming that 12% of scientists, 38% of doctors, 36% of NASA scientists, 34% of Microsoft employee, 28% of IBM employees, 17% of INTEL scientists and 13% of XEROX employees in America are Indians? None of these claims are true and even the govt. fell victim to this hoax. We became a laughing stock of the world when L.K. Advani was reading this out in Washington DC in 2004. Even if they were true, are we taking credit in working for companies founded and run by Americans?
We're so deprived of achievements that we taken credit in anything that remotely Indian. Remember Sunjita williams? We were going gaga over her eating samosa in her spaceship though she's a US citizen. We're so content that we've discovered zero and chess that nothing productive has been done for the development our country whose villages are still languishing in Stone Age. So let’s stop being empty pots making noise.
Let us for the next few years stop comparing India with any other country in the world. If we have the courage, let us do this.......... For heaven's sake, please do not come up with the excuse that even developed countries have similar issues. I agree fully with Gold finger on this.
Let us:
@@ Provide protected, clean and safe drinking water to our citizens, no matter where we live in India.
@@ Bring the population under control, like some countries have.
@@ Improve the literacy in the country. I will not suggest a number as there are CD's waiting to start another controversy on this topic.
@@ Improve our human rights record, end torture & lock up deaths.
@@ Solve substantial social issues like the Naxalite menace, dowry deaths, extra constitutional murders by panchayats who still carry out honor killings.
@@ Improve the health of each citizen by giving access to at-least the primary health center, vaccination, and make access to health a fundamental right.
@@ Tackle the massive AIDS issue looming in the country.
@@ Deal with the large problems, arising out of greenhouse gasses, and other pollutants.
@@ Make sure that each citizen can get work done at Government offices, without having to pay a bribe.
@@ Tackle traffic snarls, scrap older vehicles, make sure that each driver has insurance, make sure that those guilty of rash and negligent driving don't go scott free.
@@ Make sure that each citizen has access to his representative, be it an MP, MLA, or corporator.
@@ Demand accountability of each public official, whether it be a cop, or a civil servant.
@@ Clear the backlog of cases in our courts, be it at the munsif or the supreme court level. Also make sure that frivolous \"PIL's\" are not filed. Double the punishment in criminal appeal courts, when the appellant loses the case, as in Singapore. This will greatly bring down the backlog of cases. Bring down, if not eliminate corruption, and political interference from the judicial system.
This list is not complete and CD's can add what they consider they are issues facing the nation..
Let us not rest of our \"laurels\". Let us make a humble beginning and stop comparing India with any other country - small or large. We need not compare ourselves with either Nauru or Russia or even the US of A, if we have the courage to introspect.
If we are a great nation, others will follow us as an example, and we don't have to cry hoarse about our achievements!
Guys ,
I thought this thread was about .... hey I even forgot .... I guess Indian education standards .... and slowly turned into achievements and research and invention standards ..... I guess education in India is more on livelihood then research ... thats why most of the IIT grads leave after graduation .... THEY ARE AMONGST THE BEST BRAINS IN THE WORLD .
Indian education system may not be the best , but is highly effective due to the stress on education culture prevalent in India unlike NA ..... Perhaps higher education costs also prohibit higher education here in NA as compared to India where education and medicines are moderately priced ....
Due to a combination of low priced , good quality education available in India ... it sure is a good destination for education ......... And for the same reasons for medical treatment as well ......... Would you say Indian doctors / engineers/ CA s are inferior to the rest of the world's ?
India may not lead in research and inventions but it is still the leading outsourcing center in the world as far as human services are concerned .... Is that any less of an achievement on educational fronts ..... ??
I d once read .... those people who score a 97 percentile in GMAT ( candidates whom the top 5% US Univs would love to take ) can't think of guaranteeing themselves a place in the IIM s ....... seems we have an abundance of brain ...
I second Web2000 thought v strongly that if Indians come abroad to study it is not for better education but the ability and chance it provides to stay abroad and earn and live ...... take away that right / opportunity ... you would see a minuscule of people coming abroad .
Besides IIT / IIM s even B level schools have candidates who have higher IQ / hard working capabilities and have much harder studied than their American counterparts ... due to the prevailing competitions .........
On the other side , I have learnt that American Univs ( Canadian incl ) have very strict courses and curriculum ...... Given one to one ... do you feel that the same person who had studied 12 th in a 3rd place would fare better if admitted to an American Univ than a comparable Indian Univ .... plus the price quotient as well ......I think India would provide value for money ..I would still go back and do a couple of IT courses in India if I have the time and opportunity ... what do you guys think ? ...
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Originally posted by MGupta
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Originally posted by Fido
Due to a combination of low priced , good quality education available in India ... it sure is a good destination for education ......... And for the same reasons for medical treatment as well ......... Would you say Indian doctors / engineers/ CA s are inferior to the rest of the world's ?
Thanks God...atleast you noticed it
Thread was about best destination for study.....
For some people it is very hard to digest something good about INDIA...but who cares
I completely disagree with the analysis. The discussion is baout standards of eductaion. Why would one take judgement based on quality of doctors or Engineers or CAs? These professionals constitute microscopic percantage of Indian graduates. Fortunately for India, professional institutes, for a long time, were able to maintain integrity of the standards and hence the aforesaid category has done well. However, Nehru was a rascal and very rabid anti Indian and anti Hindu. His clan has ruled India and wpuld rule India in foreseeable future. He destroyed India with his vision (or lack of it) and his clan would finish the job.
I have come to know quite a few Canadian graduates and their depth of knowledge and understanding of issues relating to politics, sports or the subject of their study is far better than Indian graduates. Chances are such that an Indian graduate migrant is far better than average NA graduate and hence all this disagreement. But one can not compare apples with oranges and hence if one examines the issue a little dispassionately , conclusion is that an average graduate of NA University is better than an average Indian graduate
Every time there is a comparison between India & the rest of the world, it flames passions of patriotism, chauvinism, & feelings of nationalism. There is no one on earth that is not opioniated, prejudiced or biased. That being said, why can't we have a healthy discussion here? The world in the west, is not perfect, and there are miles to travel, before we can call it perfect.
That being said, some posters here (even though they live in this country) spare no effort at mud slinging the west, hiding under the \\\"freedom of expression\\\" excuse. Just because there are pictures of a few caucasian women with our brown skinned countrymen in a university, means nothing. I know that some here love to start a controversy, knowing that it would generate more heat than a healthy exchange of views, but that's ok. After all, we as country way back in India have a daily staple dose of controversy.
To compare IIT's and IIM graduates to the ones here, is a wrong comparison. No one denies the quality, the genius and intelligence of those passing out from premier institutions like IIM, IIT, NIRD etc. What would be a healthy comparison would be to compare some of the universities in India where the degrees are not worth the paper they are printed on. I wish we had the courage to accept, that even today you could purchase a degree at a university (and create a record in the registrars office), for something like ten or twenty thousand rupees.
I wish we had the courage to accept that at pre secondary level, anyone (literally you and me) could start a school, hiring college dropouts, and carry on the business without any regulation. Even today there are hundreds of schools, started by high school dropouts who look at the whole concept as a business, and not imparting true education. The fact is that all you need to start a school at pre high school level is money, contacts, legwork, and a lot advertisement. One can start a school with a fancy name like \\\"St xaviers\\\" or \\\"St John\\\"s high school, without even knowing who these saints were.
Now the arguement would be....... why compare Pre high school level education in India, with that here. The fact is that unless you lay a solid foundation, you can't build a solid structure. That is true as much about a house, as it is, about education.
There is no measure to say that the education system in one part of the globe is better than the other. That being said, we still need a lot of regulation at pre high school levels in India. We would do well to have politics (and political student bodies like SFI, ABVP etc) thrown out of our educational institutions. The vice chancellor of each university is a political appointee. Why can't we let our universities function independent of government interference?
Let us face it - when we say that the education system here has some merits, why should we have a knee jerk reaction and get so nationalistic? We know that the system here may not be perfect, but we can take cue from the good things here, can't we?
We can have a healthy exchange of views without as much turning each discussion into the usual \\\"INDIA-VS-THE-REST-OF-THE-WORLD\\\" discussion.
