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Aashu   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 1353
Location: Vaughan

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 00:20:46

Quote:
Originally posted by CD2009

Only issues I had faced was at School.

My son does not know the local language and he is in 7th std now (Lost a year... school did not give him admission to 8th because he did not know either of the languages)

He was able to get 70 % at the end of the year (6th standard) and managed to get about 40 % in the languages.

I consider that very good, because he had to learn from alphabets (from scratch) whereas his classmates knew how to read or write !

Job wise, probably I was lucky !

And I am not in the IT field.



what abt dealing with air and sound pollution, traffic, govmt bodies or system like ph, shortage of electricity / water ? cld u easily fit into job after gap of 7 yrs ?



ljlijash   
Member since: May 10
Posts: 16
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 00:40:57

Quote:
Originally posted by Aashu

making money is not tough ..not tuf at all....

if u want to make money / save...u r at right place in canada...

but if these things matter to u ( i m not syaing these shld matter, i m just saying, if these matter to u ) then probably there are challenges :

* what u do to make that money ? (labor job / coffee shop ?)
* r u using ur brain or intellect at all...
* r u progressing / developing ? * will u be doing same thing after 15 years ? (some jobs are same even after 15 yrs, same job, almost same pay)
* is it a job or career ?
* r u ok working with college students or school drop outs ?
* do u need office job ? (welders / plumbers / drivers get paid v well)



Ashu, making money IS the top priority now at least for a couple of years . :D

Well, about using brains and intellect , I am ready to do without that till i get an IT job ......and i don't mind working with school students or college drop outs as long as they don't drive me nuts !! ;)

Since my field is IT , i cant be doing welding , plumbing etc etc :)...

Any IT guys here to help me out ??



CD2009   
Member since: Mar 09
Posts: 25
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 02:30:31

Yes those problems are there. But they did exist even before 8 years.. it is not new !

I was born and raised in India and not in NA. BTW, other than the points mentioned by you.. what is so great about Canada. One can speak either way depending upon their personal situation.

IMO, life is much better here ! and this is after living in Canada fo 7-8 years. I am saying this because I have a job which I like and if need arises the skills can be transferred elsewhere.

For those who want to return and do not have a job already or in a situation where they cannot get a job... then it is decision they have to make. Depends on their personal situation... kids education, own house / rented house, family background, savings etc.. Rents in India are not cheap either and so are the food prices. Everything has gone up !

OP: If you want to give Canada a try... go ahead. Its your choice ! If you like it.. stay there or you want to go elsewhere or return... it is purely your choice. But if it takes another 5 years to get PR then it is a different story altogether.

In a way TK and GOPAL PAI have given you the correct picture. The situation may vary depending upon your education / skills and lastly your luck !




Quote:
Originally posted by Aashu

Quote:
Originally posted by CD2009

Only issues I had faced was at School.

My son does not know the local language and he is in 7th std now (Lost a year... school did not give him admission to 8th because he did not know either of the languages)

He was able to get 70 % at the end of the year (6th standard) and managed to get about 40 % in the languages.

I consider that very good, because he had to learn from alphabets (from scratch) whereas his classmates knew how to read or write !

Job wise, probably I was lucky !

And I am not in the IT field.



what abt dealing with air and sound pollution, traffic, govmt bodies or system like ph, shortage of electricity / water ? cld u easily fit into job after gap of 7 yrs ?



tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 08:06:34

Quote:
Originally posted by AshwaniG

TK , Can you pls name at least one country which provides benefits that are stated by you ALONG with PR ..
It seems I landed in a wrong country . Well anyways it is still not too late for me .


Hello,
I was talking about the Gulf.
Contrary to what some have said, Most professional jobs (I am not talking about Msc., BA people doing logistics, supervisor work and asking for big time freedom and saying that Canada is heaven. Fo them Canada may be heaven) come with a good salary, free housing, free car , free gas, free schooling (fees paid by the employer).
Just to give you some examples (real), I am penning what my classmates earn :
1. B. Architecture in Abu Dhabu. AED 20,000 monthly salary, AED 12,000 monthly rent paid by the company. Free air ticket to home and back every year for self and family. Wife is housewife taking care of children. Either the passport is with him or getting it back is no problem since he often goes to India on weekends.
2. BE Mech engg. In Doha Qatar. US$ 5,000 a month + 4 bed villa provided by the company and that too near the airport. New car was purchased by the company for him and gas is free.
3. B. Arch in Libya. US$ 82,000 a year. Works 6 hours a Week. Tax free salary (by manupulating the system. The employer does it). 6 day work week though. Yearly paid vacation with return air tickets

and the list goes on... but I belive you got the gist..

Canada is heaven to some and hell to the others. It is heaven as your qualifications go up (generally...)

I also take exception to Aashu's statement. This is not a place where you can save. Wonder how working in a coffee shop can give you a big savings. expenses are too much in the field of rent/mortgage, childcare, insurance, car,gas, return flight tickets, groceries, health tax,utilities (incidentally nothing is given fee by the company or the Govt. of Canada).
I seriously doubt if some one will give work to desi plumbers/ electricians etc.. Though you may think that plumbing/electrician/brick laying is easy, it requires education, certification, contacts etc.. This is not a one day learning job.

Peace by TK


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dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 08:18:34

Quote:
Originally posted by gopalpai

Do you think, we are not trying to relocate and have our previous job back and previous status back? You don't know how difficult it is. Now suppose we ask one expat who is settled down here in canada for past 10-15 years and is over 40, tell him to relocate to say India. Do you think it is easy for that person to get job in India after 40.? I don't think I have to write more.We all are intelligent and know the scenario.

Then we are keeping positive mind/attitude and pray that things will improve when economy improves. There is always hope.




I have lived in NA since 1992 (that would be about 18 years). I am 39. I had a very good job offer in India as of June 2009 and the offer is still open (this was when I was looking for another opportunity in US, Canada and India). I have also had few other places that showed interest in hiring. So, currently, in my opinion, it is fairly easy to secure a career in India.

To me, however, what is not easy is relocating to actually live there. I am so used to and immensely enjoy the lifestyle, independence, privacy, etc, etc that I feel I would have a hard time living there.


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ljlijash   
Member since: May 10
Posts: 16
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 09:06:28

Come on guys, instead of debating , let's do a reality check !! Answer frankly !!

How many of you here can say that you are where you started(financially and mentally) after you came to Canada??

How many of you can say that I would have been better off in my homeland ??

Let's see the outcome of these questions !!:D



imwhoever   
Member since: Aug 09
Posts: 277
Location: My laptop

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-10 09:15:52

Quote:
Originally posted by ljlijash

Come on guys, instead of debating , let's do a reality check !! Answer frankly !!

How many of you here can say that you are where you started(financially and mentally) after you came to Canada??

How many of you can say that I would have been better off in my homeland ??

Let's see the outcome of these questions !!:D



It is not that straightforward answer as you are asking..There are many factors..After five years when you are father of 5 year daughter and 7 year old in your career, ask such questions to yourself. you will understand.




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