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Loser   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1052
Location: Nice ,USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 13:08:12

Stay back in India !!!!!!!:p :) ;) :( :cheers: :D :clap: :confused: :cool: :cry: :cuss: :down:

We dont want more competition from Desis anymore. Toronto is full of Desi IT people.


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GoldFinger   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 154
Location: Los Angeles

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 13:43:28

Quote:
Originally posted by ljlijash

Hi all,

I am a 25 year old father with a lovely 1 month daughter,currently working as Software engineer at trivandrum,Kerala,India. For some time now , I have been pondering over the question of migration to Uk,AUS or Canada simply because to get a better life style , job and education for my kid. Financial gains also included. But the risk of investing so much money (around 10 laks INR) is also holding me back.

i would like to know more about Canada as a land of opportunities relating to IT field. I am open to do any kind of work for some time till i land the perfect job.

Do I need to get my qualification assessed?

How good is an Indian engineering degree ? Do i need to take any canadian degree r certifications ?

What will be the bare minimum i have to earn inorder to just survive my family ..

how about the climate ? heard its ok in Vancouver ...Still will we able to withstand it ??

Also we r a muslim family ....any kind of discrimination towards our community or for tht matter asians as a whole ??

I know i have asked too much ,but let this be a sort of guide to all those aspirants !!

Thanks in advance guys !!



Before dreaming about life in Canada, I would suggest that you understand the immigration process.

As a Software engineer, you're not eligible for Federal Skilled worker program. Being in IT, you need to be an "Computer and Information Systems Manager" in order to qualify for the program.

The processing times in Canadian Consulate in New Delhi is about 6 years which means that you'll be in your early 30's before you set foot in Canada.

You have to provide proof of funds and proficiency in English language during the application process. Hence be prepared to raise the required funds and take IELTS exam.

Once you set foot in Canada, you need to have funds to support you and your family for at least 6 months and expect the funds to disappear fast.

The Indian engineering degree/Indian work exp. may not be recognized by employers. Most employers insist on Canadian education/Canadian work exp. Hence you might have trouble finding jobs in your line of work.

Weather and Muslim background should be least of your problems as there are so many other major challenges that you've to face.

If you're ready to take up the challenge then change your line of work to "Computer and Information Systems Manager" and apply for Canadian PR after one year.



gopalpai   
Member since: Jul 09
Posts: 917
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 14:04:21

The Canadian Dream
>
>We moved to Canada, our family of four, in July 2008. It is almost one year since we left Chennai airport and flew into Toronto with our PR cards in hand and looking for the end of the rainbow. Well, we havent found it yet.
>
>Why have I titled this article, "The Canadian Dream"? Because if you are planning on moving to Canada, from India or the Middle East or wherever you live now, thinking that your life is going to be like what you see in foreign magazines or English movies . . . wake up . . . you are dreaming!!
>
>We live in a relatively mixed neighbourhood. Indians, Canadians, Philippinos and Pakistanis. We have met many Indians who have moved both from India and from other countries, especially the Middle East. One thing in common with nearly everybody you meet? Their
opinion of having moved to Canada quickly becomes apparent. Conversations normally begin with, So, have you found a job yet?, or, Are you still living in a basement?
>
>Let me set the picture straight: When you went for your PR card interview and the person behind the counter nodded and said the magic words, Here is your visa, like all of us, you must have breathed a huge sigh of relief. Glad that the stress of filling in all those forms, taking those endless Xerox copies and making all those pocket pinching money transfers is finally over! Now you can start booking your tickets and packing your bags!
>
>You sell your assets, throw or give away your household goods, get your childrens transfer certificates from school and travel across the ocean to reach your dream destination.
>
>Standing outside the airport, you get the first of many shocks. First - the weather. If you have landed anytime between the end of September and the
beginning of April, the cold will hit you like a ton of bricks. Be prepared! The second shock? The taxi ride (unless you are lucky and know someone who is picking you up) to any place is going to cost you at least $60 CAN. Plus tip. If you have come with a ton of luggage.lucky you, you get to take two taxis, because most of them dont have the space for our world famous, Indian luggage capacity! Remember, if you have also come with ten members of your extended family, each and every one of them is going to need a seat belt. So, forget the days of traveling in crammed up Ambassadors or cheap autos.
>
>Once you get to where you are staying, jet lag will hit you. This is a good thing. This means that you will have your only good nights sleep in the near future, as you will be too tired to even think about the fact that you now have no job, no home and no income. Sweet dreams.
>
>Day two of reality checks: The family member that you are staying with,
who is still giving you that welcoming smile while handing you the mornings cup of coffee, is actually thinking, When is this guy going to get a job, find a house and leave our house?. So dont get fooled by the smiles. Unless, that guy too happens to be an immigrant who moved just before you did, and is still staying in the same Uncles house that sponsored you plus the other four families.
>
>You take the newspaper to read the jobs wanted section. You circle the ones you think are interesting, the ones that require your skill and knowledge. The ones that will earn you the dollars you had been dreaming about.
>
>You send out your resumes and give them your Uncles address and phone number. Then you wait. One week, two weeks and three weeks later . . . you think, Okay, maybe the post office lost my letters. How come no one has called me for an interview??.
>
>Your name happens to be Dharminder Singh. Your Uncle suggests you change
the name on your resume to, Danny S. The first week you get three calls.
>
>The first interview morning, you are riding the bus with forty other people to get to the other side of the City. Remember, you dont have a license to drive, or a car yet. If it is winter, you will be layered in two or three sets of clothing, boots, gloves and hat.
>
>Lets skip over to the interview. You shake hands; you sit down and then stand up again. You have been asked only one question, Do you have any work experience in Canada? The second you say, no, the interview is over. You get back on the bus and head home. Oops. Your Uncles home.
>
>Three interviews and rejections later, it slowly sinks in that maybe all your experience and qualification in India . . . are worthless here in Canada.
>
>You quickly find out that all your neighbors are immigrants too, and the guy next door knows of an opening where he works. He can get you in. You dont even
have to know English or have any previous experience in Canada. Sounds good!
>
>Your new place of work is huge! You get your own id badge and employee number. Maybe even a uniform! Then someone hands you a broom and asks you to start sweeping the floor before the customers come in. What? you start to say, But I have a PhD in physics and I worked for a car company in India for thirteen years. But no one is listening, especially the lady with the Medical degree who is cleaning the table next to you.
>
>When you first come to Canada, be mentally prepared to slide down the corporate ladder. From working at McDonalds or working at the airport as a security guard . . . you may just end up doing something like this for the first couple of years. It pays ok. Enough to put food on the table and . . . well that is it. If your spouse works too, now you are talking. Two incomes here can quickly get you out of your Uncles home and into a basement of
your own. Then you work your way up, literally, to the upstairs of a home. Then someday, the entire home. By this time you would have gone through the process of failing a few driving tests, (no you cannot pay the guy Rs.200/- like you did back in India) and finally getting your license (another cause of great celebration here).
>
>Then buying your first second hand car, putting your kids in the school that falls in the same housing district (and finding out that you live too close to the school and therefore are not eligible for the free bus service) and installing an un-authorized satellite dish.
>
>Then the real Canadian dream starts clearing your very own driveway of snow in winter, (clearing the same driveway of leaves in the fall), mowing the lawn, doing all the laundry, cooking and house cleaning by yourself. Because guess what? Your maid, driver and ironing guy are back in India, enjoying a cricket match on TV and telling their
family about what a nice time you must be having in Canada!
>
>And while you are doing all of the above, plus trying to fix that leaky kitchen pipe (a plumber will charge $100 just to have a look), telling your kid who gets no homework to go study something, and wondering what kind of cereal you want for breakfast . . . keep telling yourself that you are happy because you are now living the Canadian Dream . . . . . .
>
>by ................


http://www.canadiandesi.com/articles.php

http://www.canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=27872&page=1#163639

http://www.canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=27857


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AshwaniG   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1484
Location: Convinient

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 14:47:39

Half full or Half Empty?

The government would say that the glass is fuller than if the opposition party were in power.

The opposition would say that it is irrelevant because the present administration has changed the way such volume statistics are collected.

The philosopher would say that, if the glass was in the forest and no one was there to see it, would it be half anything?

The economist would say that, in real terms, the glass is 25% fuller than at the same time last year.

The banker would say that the glass has just under 50% of its net worth in liquid assets.

The psychiatrist would ask, "What did your mother say about the glass?"

The physicist would say that the volume of this cylinder is divided into two equal parts; one a colorless, odorless liquid, the other a colorless, odorless gas. Thus the cylinder is neither full nor empty. Rather, each half of the cylinder is full, one with a gas, one with a liquid.

The seasoned drinker would say that the glass doesn''t have enough ice in it. :clap:

Now the onus is on you to figure out if the glass is half empty / half full or you need an ice in it ... Good luck


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hchheda   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 2245
Location: Woodbridge

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 16:01:02

Quote:
Originally posted by AshwaniG

Half full or Half Empty?

The government would say that the glass is fuller than if the opposition party were in power.

The opposition would say that it is irrelevant because the present administration has changed the way such volume statistics are collected.

The philosopher would say that, if the glass was in the forest and no one was there to see it, would it be half anything?

The economist would say that, in real terms, the glass is 25% fuller than at the same time last year.

The banker would say that the glass has just under 50% of its net worth in liquid assets.

The psychiatrist would ask, "What did your mother say about the glass?"

The physicist would say that the volume of this cylinder is divided into two equal parts; one a colorless, odorless liquid, the other a colorless, odorless gas. Thus the cylinder is neither full nor empty. Rather, each half of the cylinder is full, one with a gas, one with a liquid.

The seasoned drinker would say that the glass doesn''t have enough ice in it. :clap:

Now the onus is on you to figure out if the glass is half empty / half full or you need an ice in it ... Good luck



:cheers: :clap:



ftfl   
Member since: Jul 06
Posts: 2335
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 18:49:49

Quote:
Originally posted by AshwaniG

Half full or Half Empty?......................


The seasoned drinker would say that the glass doesn''t have enough ice in it. :clap:

Now the onus is on you to figure out if the glass is half empty / half full or you need an ice in it ... Good luck



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Hi chief,

My hats off to you!!. Sorry, only a slight tipping, because you will see the ba...ld spot. I will drink to that. On second thoughts, I have to drive back, so hold it.

Freddie.



ljlijash   
Member since: May 10
Posts: 16
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-05-10 23:36:01

gopalpai, that was some post u made !! gave a rude wake up call , i guess !!

And i do have IT managing experience ,so the agency guys said i can be there in 1 year max !! But anyway after gopals post ,I have to start thinking again, I had almost made up my mind to fly !! :
:)

Anyways thxn guys for teh wonderful help .... So i guess it will take around 3 years to break even rt? and a min of 5 years to settle down !! PHEWWW .....:confused:

:confused: :confused:




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