BJP is finished in Gujarat & India


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sguk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-10 11:27:35

Modi and BJP stand against the continuation of the past atrocities committed by the ROP. After independence both in Pakistan and Bangladesh, non ROP population has almost been wiped out.

Once, Modi and BJP will be eliminated then the same thing will happen to non ROP population, gradually. So within say 50 or 100 years (year 2110) the same phenomenon will occur in India.

Sure, Modi or BJP are not saints.

See this article to what happened in the historical sense.




Will Durant, the famous historian summed it up like this:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."

Koenraad Elst , the german historian writes in "Negation in India"

The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population; the region is still called the Hindu Kush, i.e. Hindu slaughter. The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 captives in a single day, and many more on other occasions. The conquest of the Vijayanagar empire in 1564 left the capital plus large areas of Karnataka depopulated. And so on.

As a contribution to research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity, we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate)..

But the Indian Pagans were far too numerous and never fully surrendered. What some call the Muslim period in Indian history, was in reality a continuous war of occupiers against resisters, in which the Muslim rulers were finally defeated in the 18th century. Against these rebellious Pagans the Muslim rulers preferred to avoid total confrontation, and to accept the compromise which the (in India dominant) Hanifite school of Islamic law made possible. Alone among the four Islamic law schools, the school of Hanifa gave Muslim rulers the right not to offer the Pagans the sole choice between death and conversion, but to allow them toleration as zimmis (protected ones) living under 20 humiliating conditions, and to collect the jizya (toleration tax) from them. Normally the zimmi status was only open to Jews and Christians (and even that concession was condemned by jurists of the Hanbalite school like lbn Taymiya), which explains why these communities have survived in Muslim countries while most other religions have not. On these conditions some of the higher Hindu castes could be found willing to collaborate, so that a more or less stable polity could be set up. Even then, the collaboration of the Rajputs with the Moghul rulers, or of the Kayasthas with the Nawab dynasty, one became a smooth arrangement when enlightened rulers like Akbar (whom orthodox Muslims consider an apostate) cancelled these humiliating conditions and the jizya tax.

It is because of Hanifite law that many Muslim rulers in India considered themselves exempted from the duty to continue the genocide on the Hindus (self-exemption for which they were persistently reprimanded by their mullahs).



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-10 14:11:26

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Originally posted by sguk

Modi and BJP stand against the continuation of the past atrocities committed by the ROP.



Pardon my ignorance, but what is ROP? Heard it for the first time.



JaiHo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-10 14:27:15

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Originally posted by Nightmare

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Originally posted by febpreet

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I wish someday modi 'll become PM of India..our many propblems will solved automatically.
He is a true Patriot....he is the most eligible person in India for PM-Seat



Although I am not an ardent fan of any political party, the above made me laugh out loud - literally. I can agree that he might be a true patriot (who knows but himself only), but most eligible? Hmmm.... not really.



I do not know about his being most eligible for PM's post, but he certainly is most eligible bachelor!



Well, looking at Modi's achievement in Gujrat - I can proudly say that Modi is the man to watch. God Bless Him and I wish him to be the PM of India.
Other than that, he is the Only politician in India who has the guts to give a befitting answer to those who burned down the Godra Train bogies (along with the kar-sevaks and their families). Being Israel, is the Only answer to these muslim traitors.


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sguk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-10 15:39:56

after Modi and BJP is finished


see this article



Gandhi was unacceptably wrong about a number of things -- his advice to Jews to mimic Indians in their campaign with the British, and to offer "passive resistance" to Hitler, and if necessary to sacrifice themselves, takes the cake. But he was also remarkably ill-informed about the Muslim threat, the deep and permanent threat, to the "wounded civilization" of India (in Naipaul's phrase -- a civilization "wounded" by the centuries of Muslim rule, its cruelty, its mass murdering). And he certainly gave Muslims the benefit of every doubt.

After Partition, Muslims attacked Hindus, and Hindus fought back. There was an exchange of populations, but many tens of millions of Muslims remained in India, while a few million Hindus remained in West Pakistan (now Pakistan) and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh). But because of the constant discrimination against, and persecution of, Hindus (as well as of all other non-Muslims), the percentage of the population of West Pakistan that is now Hindu has dropped from 15% to 1.4%, and from 35% to less than 8%.

The much smaller population of Buddhists in Bangladesh has also been persecuted, and of course Christians in both Pakistan and Bangladesh have a terrible time. Meanwhile, in India, the Muslim percentage of the population climbs steadily up, and no Muslims appear to be fleeing India to go to Pakistan or Bangladesh. So there continues to be population movement, but not population exchange. Hindus (and other non-Muslims) continue to be subject to Muslim terrorism and to Muslim demands, each demand more outrageous than the next, with no sign that Muslims are willing to own up to what is in the Qur'an, the Hadith, and the Sira. Nor is there any sign that they are going to own up to the incompatibility of Islam, and what Islam inculcates, with the beliefs, or the legal and political institutions, of Hindus, or Christians, or Jews, or Buddhists, or anyone at all who is non-Muslim and refuses to yield to the Sharia and to dominance by Muslims.

Eventually, and inevitably, Hindus and others upon whom war has been made, will react. And they will not stop until they have done to Muslims what Muslims have been doing to them, and have pushed many of them into Pakistan and Bangladesh, in a mirror image of the Hindus formerly pushed out of those places during the past half-century since Partition. It is doubtful that in the rest of the world there would be much, or any, sympathy for the Muslims dealt with in this matter. Infidels need not inure themselves, need not endure forever what has become or is becoming an intolerable situation because of the ideology of Islam.

Yet on the other hand, if they are put in this position, Muslims may win worldwide sympathy, for Muslim propagandists and their non-Muslim supporters, have successfully prevented the outside world, and even many of those who may be Hindis or of Hindu origin, from fully understanding what Muslim rule did to India, beginning with the 60-70 million murdered Hindus.

It is unfortunate that thoroughly modern young Indians or Indian-Americans or Indian-English are uninterested in this matter, or have allowed themselves not to become interested. They wish to signal to the outside world how thoroughly devoid of what they see as silly, nearly troglodytic attitudes of Hindutva, that they (those thoroughly modern Hindus) cannot be accused of such. And to prove it, they will always denounce Hindu nationalists, no matter how reasonable those nationalists might be (they are not all Hitler-praising like a certain politician named Thackeray -- no relation to Becky Sharpe's creator). Some of those young Indians apparently find it unseemly to be too interested in the pre-Islamic history of India (they might start with A. L. Basham's "The Wonder that was India";). And in the United States, those of Hindu descent may, far from India, and even farther from understanding the past and present and future menace of Islam as an ideology, have Muslim friends -- and, as so many do, they may end up confusing personal charm or even kindness or even romantic entanglements with a Muslim for the sweet reasonableness of Islam itself. And this in turn can lead to a tacit whitewashing of Muslim history.

Were I an Indian-American, I would like to find out about what Muslim rule meant for India. Why did Ibn Battuta report, with such bland indifference, on the mass-murders and enslavement of whole villages of Hindus in his "Rihla"? Why was it left to Sir William Jones, and a group of Englishmen, to rediscover or help to rediscover India's Hindu past? What is the real origin of India's Muslims and of Pakistanis -- was it that Islam was simply so wonderful and attractive, or where there other reasons for conversion to Islam? How many Hindu victims were there of Islam in India? What happened to all the temples? (Hint: see the list compiled by Sita Ram Goel). What did the India's own historians write about the Muslim invaders and rulers, as for example in the 2-volume anthology edited, in the 19th century (and recently re-published) by Dowson and Elliott? Why have such historians as K. S. Lal and Sarkar not received their due in the outside world -- or even on Indian campuses? How were Sikhs treated by Muslims, including the most important early figures? What happens to Hindus (and Sikhs) in Pakistan today? In Bangladesh? In Kashmir? How much Muslim violence and terrorism takes place in India, and is never reported outside of India? What happens to Hindus in Amsterdam? In London, Manchester, Birmingham, and Bradford, at the hands of their Muslim neighbors -- anything? Nothing?

Why do Indian-Americans tend to uncritically accept Muslim propaganda, and denounce -- without having read K. S. Lal, or Sita Ram Goel, or Koenraad Elst, or Sir Jahundath Sarkar, or a hundred others who have written -- any expression of interest in, or sympathy for, Hinduism and the Hindu past as something fit for only the most reactionary supporter of Hindutva?

Why is it only the most extraordinary and self-assured observers of Indian descent, such as V. S. Naipaul, who are capable of taking Islam's measure, without any fear of being labelled "Hindutva" fanatics?

These are questions to be asked, if not in Hindu temples and Sikh gundwaras, then privately, to oneself, just before ordering on-line a few books, to start with, by K. S. Lal.

And don't stop there.



KumarM   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-08-10 11:33:21

http://www.zeenews.com/news646802.html

Gandhinagar: Former Gujarat minister of state for home Amit Shah, whose two-day CBI custody ends on Sunday, has been sent to judicial custody till August 21.

Shah was in judicial custody before being handed over to the CBI. He was arrested on July 25.

CBI officials earlier continued Shah’s questioning for the second day today, a day after he was grilled for nine hours in connection with the 2005 killing of Sohrabuddin Sheikh in a staged shootout. The former minister has been asked questions about the orders he issued in relation to the transfer of key police officers who are now co-accused and his phone conversations - 32 times with Deputy Superintendent of Police N K Amin on the day Sohrabuddin's wife Kauserbi is suspected to have been killed, sources said.

The Gujarat Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) has been accused of killing Sheikh in a staged shootout on November 26, 2005, in Ahmedabad. His wife Kauserbi is suspected to have been killed at a farm near here two days later.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-08-10 20:10:35

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Originally posted by KumarM

http://www.zeenews.com/news646802.html

Gandhinagar: Former Gujarat minister of state for home Amit Shah, whose two-day CBI custody ends on Sunday, has been sent to judicial custody till August 21.

Shah was in judicial custody before being handed over to the CBI. He was arrested on July 25.

CBI officials earlier continued Shah’s questioning for the second day today, a day after he was grilled for nine hours in connection with the 2005 killing of Sohrabuddin Sheikh in a staged shootout. The former minister has been asked questions about the orders he issued in relation to the transfer of key police officers who are now co-accused and his phone conversations - 32 times with Deputy Superintendent of Police N K Amin on the day Sohrabuddin's wife Kauserbi is suspected to have been killed, sources said.

The Gujarat Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) has been accused of killing Sheikh in a staged shootout on November 26, 2005, in Ahmedabad. His wife Kauserbi is suspected to have been killed at a farm near here two days later.



Why do you keep posting news which is available to every one without giving your own opinion/comments?

What does this prove? It simply proves that Amit Shah is a moron who left the trail. However, what he accomplished is noble. It also proves that the fox (Man mohan Singh) has become bold and instead of feasting on Caracas trying to cage the lion. (Modi). I hope in future if BJP ever comes to power, they have a PM who is as foxy as Manmohan and extract the revenge by putting behind Kongi goons. Vajpayee was too civil compared to Man mohan and Sonia. Kangress has started campaign of terror and vengeance. I am sure it will come to bite them back. Out of hundreds of cases of fake encounter, they have chosen one to punish Modi. Shame on the Kangress and more shame on people like you who endorse villain like Man mohan and Sonia who are just not anti Hindu but anti India. Sonia forgets that when Rajiv Gandhi was blasted out of this world for meddling with Tamil people, people of Gujarat were with her. Now she is having dinner with the same DMK but trying unsuccessfully to starve Gujarat of funds, projects and stability.



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-10 07:42:23

The person who posted the article about BJP's defeat, seems to completely miss the larger picture of who the CONGRESS party is :

C= C for Corruption- since India became independent,,which is evident today

C= Criminalization

C= Caste based politics

C= Conversion- to break the Hindu Society & thus increase vote bank..

......this is just C, not going to all alphabets

Minority appeasement, not punishing Terrorists IF they are MUSLIMS...

Insensitive to protecting its citizens

V Soft state approach...





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